Genetic ?

[smellycat]

i was just wondering if it is a curse from old testament.?or did it signify something we should know.?like is it because they reject Jesus.?

[Lily]

i was just wondering if it is a curse from old testament.?or did it signify something we should know.?like is it because they reject Jesus.?

No Cat

Many are of the opinion that the so-called 'Jewish' nose is actually an ethnic feature of the Mongol/Turkic region and many Jews today are descended from the Ashkenazi Jews who originally came from the Khazar empire and these Khazars were converted to Judaism centuries ago and later settled in Europe.

I can't confirm that for sure and not my opinion. Thats just one theory.

You may find this helpful as to who the Khazars were but can I ask you to raise you're thoughts about that in another thread as we will wander off this topic.

Question 13.4: Who were the Khazars? Are Ashkenazi Jews descended from the Khazars?

[Lily]

Cat, hope you don't mind the title but I have moved our posts so we didn't get off topic in the vanity thread.

[DeaconDan]

If you can become a Jew by conversion then being a Jew is not a race. Or, if the promise was to Abraham's physical descendants, then Arabs would be inheritors of the promise (because Arabs are Abraham's descendants).

Most Jews do not have the "Jewish nose". Many non-Jews have the "Jewish nose" (especially what Lily said). There is no way to identify anyone as a member of a jewish race by noses, by genealogies, by DNA, or any other way.

Any curse Jews suffer from, it is from their beliefs and attitude, not from the Old Testament. Although, Jews who really were racially Jews were punished in 70AD. Jesus called this "Days of vengeance" in Luke 21:22. It was essentially the violent end of anything that could credibly be called a jewish race.

[Galaen]

Here we go again!

[Robert Cragg]

Here we go again!

Ditto

[smellycat]

if what dan is saying is true why rebuff him.?i would rather research and post it ,that judge the info as false.

[Robert Cragg]

If you talking to me I'm not rebuffing I was simply explaning that problems with the birth of children and deforumities, and so on I don't remember now, I can't find the orginal posting I made it was either moved or deleted.
Anyways I mearly pointed out that all problems with people and everything else started back in the Garden when sin enterewd the world the world was corrupted in everyway and area.

[Lily]

I can't find the orginal posting I made it was either moved or deleted.

Hi Robert. The only posts moved were mine and Cats Robert. These posts were originally in the vanity thread and I moved our posts and renamed the thread as Cat's and my posts were in danger of possibly derailing the thread.

I feel sure the post you are refering to is in the " So called Jews of today " thread that Cat started where I tried to merge without success, so I moved my posts there so it could be Cats own title.
No posts of your's were deleted Robert.

[smellycat]

the question is the same,are the jewish of today the jewish from the bible.?and if so are they the descendents of the pharisees or the believers in Christ.?also the jewish that believed in jesus at the time,would they have a diffrent name as a group now.?

also if they believed in Christ ,wouldn,t they take his name=christian.?