Genetic ?

[Lily]

also if they believed in Christ ,wouldn,t they take his name=christian.?

They did Cat, in Acts 11:19-26.



19 Now those who were scattered after the persecution that arose over Stephen traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to no one but the Jews only. 20 But some of them were men from Cyprus and Cyrene, who, when they had come to Antioch, spoke to the Hellenists, preaching the Lord Jesus. 21 And the hand of the Lord was with them, and a great number believed and turned to the Lord.
22 Then news of these things came to the ears of the church in Jerusalem, and they sent out Barnabas to go as far as Antioch. 23 When he came and had seen the grace of God, he was glad, and encouraged them all that with purpose of heart they should continue with the Lord. 24 For he was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and of faith. And a great many people were added to the Lord.
25 Then Barnabas departed for Tarsus to seek Saul. 26 And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church and taught a great many people. And the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.

[smellycat]

so know the question is ,are the jewish today descendants of the pharisees and saducees.?and if so is this why they hate Jesus.?and if this is so,why are our leaders following them.?

[smellycat]

this dualism rubbish is just that.

[Lily]

Cat, even though I do consider you're questions to be valid, worthwhile and I am a huge advocate of free speech, I am rather concerned that we may be wavering away from the OP which was about noses and that another war will ensue such as we saw in the replacement theology thread.

Because it is my wish not to see that happen, may I suggest you maybe go back to that thread and read through it and maybe you will find the answers to these questions there ?

[Robert Cragg]

Hi Robert. The only posts moved were mine and Cats Robert. These posts were originally in the vanity thread and I moved our posts and renamed the thread as Cat's and my posts were in danger of possibly derailing the thread.

I feel sure the post you are refering to is in the " So called Jews of today " thread that Cat started where I tried to merge without success, so I moved my posts there so it could be Cats own title.
No posts of your's were deleted Robert.

Don't worry about Lily, I don't remember anymore, my mind is not working well sometimes I'm in a state of confusion.