World religions and the christian faith

[Bloodbought]

True Christianity is NOT a religion. It is about a relationship with the Living God through His SOn Jesus Christ through faith.

As I have said before Religion is a set of rule whereby men HOPE to get closer to God. Christianity as the Bible teaches it is a relationship based on faith not works which bring men and women into relationship with the living God, This started with Jesus Christ.

When youtalk about 500 years you may be getting confused with the Roman Catholic Church which was not known until about 350AD.

[TaraMaiden]

Ive read your words and all I find is a mishmash of half truths and anecdotes and it has now come to a conclusion as far as I can see as you do not seem to care what is truth

The problem, Onesiphorus, is that repeatedly, you have avoided addressing any of the points I have made. I have answered several of your comments, and you have chosen to either ignore them or to simply repeat inaccurate statements, inspite of my attempts to engage you in meaningful discussion.
there are none so blind as those who will not see....
Go back over the posts.
Look at the responses I have given you.
I have even quoted links to back up my comments.
Where have you then returned in sequential reply?
never.
So if anyone is prevaricating, avoiding the issues and not caring to even discuss the truth.... well, really... talk about removing the plank from your own eye.....
Tell me, now and here. What half-truths?
What anecdotes?
GIVE CONCRETE EXAMPLES INSTEAD OF EVADING THE DISCUSSION - !!
But even now, I doubt you will engage in the way you should on this forum. As I pointed out several posts ago.....

True Christianity is NOT a religion. It is about a relationship with the Living God through His SOn Jesus Christ through faith.

As I have said before Religion is a set of rule whereby men HOPE to get closer to God. Christianity as the Bible teaches it is a relationship based on faith not works which bring men and women into relationship with the living God, This started with Jesus Christ.

When youtalk about 500 years you may be getting confused with the Roman Catholic Church which was not known until about 350AD.

It's always possible.
But given that I am ex-Catholic, I trust you'll forgive the drummed-in lessons I endured and understand how it is possible I came up with this.....

However, if you look at the link I quoted in response to onesiphorus you will see the reason I said what I did.....

Clarification after such a long time has passed is obviously not always easy.


_/l\_

[TaraMaiden]

Ive read your words and all I find is a mishmash of half truths and anecdotes and it has now come to a conclusion as far as I can see as you do not seem to care what is truth

Now see below:

Well, this seems wonderful; Are you telling me that God considers you perfect because you are "In Christ"?
Does this indicate therefore, that even if you are in christ, you do not ever need to seek divine forgiveness for sins, because if you are perfect, they don't count?
perfection does not commit sins....Does it?

You did not respond.

Do you men "You" as in 'You' Buddhists, or "You" as in 'You' christians....?
If you mean the latter, this is true of Buddhism also....

you did not respond.

I never said you should follow them, I suggested you find out about them to learn of another Christian's viewpoint....what bit of it is unscriptural and Christian....? Back your statements up.....
What of it "goes against your faith"?

You did not respond.

...For example....?

You did not respond....

And then again...

Yoga is mainly Hindu in practice, not Buddhist. The Buddha wasn't Buddhist. Those who follow him refer to themselves as Buddhist. But Yoga and Buddhism are quite separate.
I need you to try to undersatand this, Onesiphorous....

No response.

Enlightenment is actually a whole lot more than just meditation. The point of meditation is not enlightenment.

No response.

No, you are mistaken.
Life is not suffering leading to death. If we permit death to bother us, then we suffer. It's subtle, but different. All life - including Death - is suffering. The aim is to understand this, realise it, and transcend it, so that eventually, we view old age, sickness and death as something to just participate in without being bogged down by it.

No response.

And this is where you make another error.
You cut out the few years.
Six in all, to be precise, during which time he shared time with other ascetics, mendicants and wanderers, seeking answers....and during this time, he began to realise what was required...
(incidentally, where exactly did Jesus disappear to, during his formative years... one day he's 12, and in the temple.... the next he's 30, and ministering.... the intervening years were, I'm sure, put to good use.....)

no response.

Yes..... and....? care to expand?

No response.

The 8 are found in Tm,s threads AND it includes Right Concentration.

A single word change transforms it into a positive... whereas I am under the impression that you were attempting to project it as a negative. Why "but"....?I am baffled....

No response.

What is your point here?

No response.

Tell me what of this world is worth holding on to....
Better yet, tell me, in dying.... what of this world CAN you hold on to?

no response.

Having reached the conclusion of "absolutely nothing at all" we strive to reach a state in which we can detach from all worldy compounded phenomena, as we live.....

No response.

Whereas I have replied to all your posts piecemeal.

So really Onesiphorus.... I think this demonstrates which one of us is avoiding all issues of discussion, don't you?

This terminates my engagement with you.
I will not enter into any further dialogue, unless it be constructive and discursive.

[Onesiphorus]

THis is a useful thread to add balance if anyone wants to

[inquisitive]

I have been meaning to include a thread in this section for some time , not as a negative thing , but for balance , because we agree to include in our membership friends from across the world from a number of beliefs philosophies and denominations , there should be a thread where individuals can post without going off topic in the various threads .AS a Christian forum I know some do not like this freedom we give for other faiths to have their say , but we in Admin do not agree , however , this thread will be a chance for a christian viewpoint to be aired , however , if what an individual has to say is relevant to any thread then please use that thread and not this one

Now I intend that this thread if someone wishes to post here, will not be an instrument of anti other beliefs , but a way of redressing some points of imbalance , and I shall be policing it very closely and should any posts be written here which are not backed by scripture and only shows intolerance and hostility and prejudice they will be unceremoniously binned , so beware what you say and how you say it

Also the members who contribute within this section can post here as well



MOre importantly this thread can be used by anyone who wants to know where we as Christians stand scripturally with regards to certain aspects that may be attractive and appealing and sound harmless or helpful on an individuals circumstances yet as christians we must not do and believe me there are many , and there is scripture to support this , so it is also a protection against enticing words and tempting practices which definitely would do spiritual harm to them

Okay that would be cool, to start afresh with your opening post

[marcelle19]

To add to brother Bloodbought's statement about Christianity being a relationship:

I have heard this expressed many times, and it is definitely true, but Christianity goes beyond a relationship, although we definitely need to maintain that:

Christianity is a LIFE, and that LIFE is "Christ in (us), the hope of glory."

Not contradicting you, brother, just adding to what you said.

In His love and grace,

Bill

P.S.

By the way, I have my hand open, there is nothing in it, and as far as I can tell, it's perfect...want it?