the pope at a jewish temple denying christ

[Faith]

Blatant twisting of truths. Is the covenant of Abraham passed away the eternal covenant God made with Abraham?
The Lord made another covenant with the Israelites and if they keep that covenant then they will receive life. Proof of this is David and the Prophets including Moses. Those who obey Gods law receives the life by the presence of the Spirit. There is two ways which confirm this.
1. David in psalm 51 when repenting of his sin says, "Take not thy holy Spirit from me." Peter in 2 peter 1:20-21. Says Holy Men of God spoke the Word by the guidance of Gods Spirit.

In Jeremiah 31:31-34 we see a final covenant different from the Israelites.
Note it does not state different to Abrahams.
The truth is that a Jew who lives completely by the law without breaking it like David can receive life. Yes we have a new covenant which had to be rejected by alot of the jews and we see a remenant is saved.
But Gods covenants do not cease to exist. But when Christ spoke about new wine and new wine skins. We had to be cleansed from our sins be made new to receive the Holy Spirit. The old covenant cannot work within the new covenant. Vice versa the new covenant cannot work within the Old Covenant.

What is really going on is that Europe want to make the Roman Catholic Church the main church of it's union. To do that the Church must first unify itself with all other religions. Hence the other pope kissed Quran
and now this pope is making every religion acceptable by his church.
You have guessed so they won't object to them being the main church in europe because they accept all.

We know the times and we know the falling away is now in progress.
Yes it may not be the main falling away. What is different that makes this falling away different? The increase in travel as predicted in Daniel. The last 20 years or so has seen the biggest increase in mankind travelling abroad. The single monetary union as predicted in the 70's and the way we can now link up with any country so one man could run the whole world from one place.

I am not trying to put the fear of God up anyone but live your time as if it is coming be prepared and make sure your lamps are burning -tend them well.

Love Faith.xx

[Bloodbought]

Let me state what I believe to be simple facts.

Religion is a set of rules which men believe will lead them to God.

Judasim and Romanism fall into that category

Christianity as Jesus taught it is a new kind of life based on a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

True Christianity is NOT a religion.

[Lambsy]

Originally Posted by onesiphorus

dear Lambsy , so you are saying the animal sacrifices in Ezekiel which is referring to the times of Jacobs troubles will be carried out on the earth by Roman Catholics .

And while we are on the subject it is called the time of JACOBS trouble (Jacob/Israel)not romanism

the Jewish faith is catholicism ??..How on earth do you come to that conclusion , and as I recall you never answered me about how if Peter was your first pope and spiritual head and example ,why

A.... popes are not married
B.... catholics or at the very least popes are not circumcised
C....and why none are Jewish after him

Point out the passage "in context" where Gods people were replaced scripturally from the promises of God by a gentile religion

I think you are confusing what happened at pentecost in Acts 2 with Christianity

the Jewish faith is catholicism ??..How on earth do you come to that conclusion

I wish I could meet you in person, so I can show you just how Jewish the Catholic Church really is. If you understand the all the aspects of the Jewish faith, and see how our Jewish Apostles transfered it to the Catholic Church, you would be completely amazed. The Catholic faith like the Jewish faith is not " Scripture alone ", it is both Scripture and Tradition, and the old tradition hands on to the new tradition by the Apostles themselves.

Thats why the Apostles tell people to hold to the traditions that the Apostles taught them. They transfer all that is good from the ancient Jewish faith and deposit it into Christianity.

The time of Jacobs troubles, will be the time when the Jews accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah, and come into the Catholic faith, which is the fulfillment of the Jewish faith.

From the Jewish faith came the Old Testament, and from the Catholic faith came the New Testament, the two faiths united fulfill the Word.

Point out the passage "in context" where Gods people were replaced scripturally from the promises of God by a gentile religion

"I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord of hosts: and I will not receive a gift of your hand. For from the rising of the sun, even to the going down, my name is great among the Gentiles, and in every place there is sacrifice, and there is offered to my name a clean oblation: for my name is great among the Gentiles, saith the Lord of hosts" Mal. 1:10-11.

"But on some points I have written to you very boldly by way of reminder, because of the grace given me by God to be a minister (Leitourgon) of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in the priestly service (hierorgounta) of the gospel of God, so that the offering of the Gentiles may be acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit" (Rom. 15:16

This holy offering of the Gentiles is fulfilled in the Catholic faith in the Eucharist.
Catholics have a Sacrificial priesthood.

In Daniel we see the prophesy that the perpetual sacrifice will cease, this is when Mass will be banned. Mass is the perpetual Sacrifice, that takes place everywhere.

The Mass is the One Sacrifice of Jesus made present in time, and Jesus is truly present in the Eucharist.

[Lambsy]

and as I recall you never answered me about how if Peter was your first pope and spiritual head and example ,why

A.... popes are not married
B.... catholics or at the very least popes are not circumcised
C....and why none are Jewish after him

A: Peter was married before he became a Christian a follower of Christ. Today any Catholic man can technically be Pope, married or not.
Many people do not understand this, and have strange ideas about this.

B: Baptism is the new circumcision.

C: The Catholic faith is the fulfillment of the Jewish faith, it is Jewish Christianity.
Jewish Nationality and the Jewish religion are not to be confused here.

A Jewish Rabbi became a Catholic, and stated simply that he was more Jewish because he became Catholic, because the Catholic faith is the fulfillment of the Jewish faith.

I wish you could sit down with my Jewish friend and I, we could explain the seamless transition of the Jewish and Catholic faiths.
Scripture would really be opened up to you if see the Jewish and Catholic faiths explained together. I realize this is just words to you, but believe me, Scripture would really be opened up to you if see the Jewish and Catholic faiths explained together.

[Lambsy]

Originally Posted by Bloodbought

Let me state what I believe to be simple facts.

Religion is a set of rules which men believe will lead them to God.

Judasim and Romanism fall into that category

Christianity as Jesus taught it is a new kind of life based on a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

True Christianity is NOT a religion.

So true Christianity is 50,000 different denominations teaching conflicted interpretations of Scripture. It doesn't matter what they teach, they are all true Christians ?

[IS IT I ?]

So true Christianity is 50,000 different denominations teaching conflicted interpretations of Scripture.

nope true Christianity is being BORN AGAIN of the spirit and the water. salvation comes through christ and christ alone.

[onesiphorus]

Dear Lambsy , of course Romanism is like the Jewish beliefs , it is like it not because romanism is a continuation it is like it because it has changed the truth by userping the jewish faith ,what I mean is , the roman empire at that time was still the major force decided that paganism should be replaced by their own state religion and every scripture relating to the Jews was replaced by Romanism , not an act of God but definately and consciously the work of "man" , that is why what you say appears to you correct that the scriptures refer to romanism . You have seized the scriptures which are for them, the Jews ,without the authority of God ,and unfortunately when you did this and when the reformation came many of these untruths became similar doctrines in the reformation of Luthers time ,so causing confusion even today amonst protestant denominations . No there are future prophecies awaiting the remnant of the 12 trinbes and those prophecies do not include romanism .

[Lambsy]

Originally Posted by onesiphorus

Dear Lambsy , of course Romanism is like the Jewish beliefs , it is like it not because romanism is a continuation it is like it because it has changed the truth by userping the jewish faith ,what I mean is , the roman empire at that time was still the major force decided that paganism should be replaced by their own state religion and every scripture relating to the Jews was replaced by Romanism , not an act of God but definately and consciously the work of "man" , that is why what you say appears to you correct that the scriptures refer to romanism . You have seized the scriptures which are for them, the Jews ,without the authority of God ,and unfortunately when you did this and when the reformation came many of these untruths became similar doctrines in the reformation of Luthers time ,so causing confusion even today amonst protestant denominations . No there are future prophecies awaiting the remnant of the 12 trinbes and those prophecies do not include romanism .

First off, you haven't got a true grasp of history.

The Popes from the time Peter to 300 AD, were all killed by the Pagan Romans. The Church was under assault from the time of Nero. The Church did not bow to the state, the state decriminalized Christianity.
The pagan Roman state was Christianized, Christianity was not paganized.

Don't blame the Catholic Church for Protestant division, these divisions are entirely the fault of each human founder of each protestant church.

[Bloodbought]

There may be 50,000 different churches within the Catholic Church (not ROMAN CATHOLIC) but that is the freedom of expression allowed in the christian faith. Christians who are born again become members of the universal church of Jesus Christ of which He alone is the head. There are many expression of this in different cultures and countries. The Christian church is not bound by any set of man made rules which insist on conformity.

There is no set of rules laid down in the new testament as to how a church should be conducted. Which is probably why the RC church went back to Judaism to find its rules. In the Christian faith that kind of ritual is irrelevant.

Within the Roman Catholic church there are many different expression in different countries so lets not pretend that the romanism is universally uniform. Even within the UK there are differences between RC churches.

So dont let the pot call the kettle black.

[Lambsy]

Within the Roman Catholic church there are many different expression in different countries so lets not pretend that the romanism is universally uniform. Even within the UK there are differences between RC churches.

The Catholic teaching is the same all around the world. It is, and has always been one faith.

Protestantism is thousands of different conflicted teachings, in any one particular city.

I have traveled many places in the world, and I have always found that Catholic faith is the same, everywhere on earth.