Satan being cast to the earth from the Revelation Study

[Lily]

That People do worship and or claim to worship Satan...A Person, who is an, "Identifiable being", able to "possess people" with power, which is then also "worshiped";

Hello Spirit

But would you not agree that satans power persay relies on the aligence of people ?

[smellycat]

satan is spirit,in the garden we (humans),made him god.and as god would have domimion.now Jesus came ,we ask jesus to save us,he sends us the holy spirit to be with us,satan cannot enter us,he does not have dominion.

but he still has dominion over his own.

[streetsinger]

To say that the acceptance of demons goes against scriptural teaching, shows a lack of spiritual understanding. As Paul says "we are not at war with flesh and blood."
Ephes. 6:12 (ANIV)
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
If there are no demons, who or what are these spiritual forces of evil that Paul speaks of? He says we don't wage war as the world does;
2 Cor. 10:3-5 (ANIV)
For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. [4] The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. [5] We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. Demons are real, Jesus wasn't in the habit of casting out peoples sinful natures. Demons speak into our minds with temptations,accusations and pretensions, these come as thoughts. It's these thoughts that we are called to take captive and bring into obedience to Christ, and in doing so we take authority over the spirit that is attempting to invade our souls. If we don't take captive these thoughts and in fact give them credence they will become strongholds and the enemy will have a right to dwell in them. Then deliverance is needed to smash them and cast out those who dwell in them.
Mark 5:7-9 (ANIV)
He shouted at the top of his voice, "What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? Swear to God that you won't torture me!" [8] For Jesus had said to him, "Come out of this man, you evil spirit!"
[9] Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?"
"My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many."
The question is, how did Legion access this man? What was their entry port? In John Bunyan's book, 'The Holy War' The story is set in a town called man-soul. The entrances to this town are ear-gate, eye-gate and feel-gate. No-one can enter without invitation. One Diablos set his mind to assault man soul and so the story goes. John Bunyan knew his scriptures.

[Chuckt]

For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. [4] The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. [5] We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. Demons are real, Jesus wasn't in the habit of casting out peoples sinful natures. Demons speak into our minds with temptations,accusations and pretensions, these come as thoughts. It's these thoughts that we are called to take captive and bring into obedience to Christ, and in doing so we take authority over the spirit that is attempting to invade our souls. If we don't take captive these thoughts and in fact give them credence they will become strongholds and the enemy will have a right to dwell in them. Then deliverance is needed to smash them and cast out those who dwell in them.

I wrote an article against Generational curses and I felt I won because the blog won an award and I shut down a debate. I was surprised that one of the supporters would then claim the Bible must not be true since he/she believed so heavily in them. Other Christians whom I stay away from still heavily believe in demon posession.

Christians have exousia (power) over their own will (1 Cor. 7:37) and the word "authority" for casing out demons is "exousia" in Luke 9:1 so if we don't have power or authority over our own wills then no one would have the power to cast out a demon.

We're "sealed" by the spirit of God and the word comes from signet which means fenched in which means that we can't be misappropriated. So if any of us are suffering it is because of our failure to follow the Bible and we are sinning which is wilfull.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, *All* power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. So when the Bible tells us to live right then God gives you the power to obey.

"Some of the names given by these supposed demons which are more popular are lust, hatred, liar gluttony, envy, fear, and jealousy. These things are classified in Galatians 5:19-21 as the works of the flesh. We're told to 'put off all these' (Colossians 3:8), or by the Spirit to "mortify the deeds of the body" (Romans 8:13; 6:3-14). Not once are we commanded to have them cast out."-Pastor Chuck

Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

The question is, "Why are so many people are servants of sin?"

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

[smellycat]

"Some of the names given by these supposed demons which are more popular are lust, hatred, liar gluttony, envy, fear, and jealousy.

these are fables.

[Chuckt]

"Some of the names given by these supposed demons which are more popular are lust, hatred, liar gluttony, envy, fear, and jealousy.

these are fables.

Sadly, their teaching has gone mainstream.

[streetsinger]

Chuckt, If Jesus was teaching the disciples to cast out demons and Paul tells us our fight is with them, and Jesus taught us the method of keeping ourselves free of them, in his encounter with Satan in the desert, why would we disbelieve in their relevance or their existence? I don't know about you, but I often receive thoughts that are not of me and I have to deal with them. These are not indwelling spirits but neither was Satan indwelling Jesus in the desert. It's unusual to find Christians bound by spiritual forces, but I believe it is possible if they flirt with sin. How many serial criminals claim to be under the influence of voices and claim the voices ordered them to commit the crime, or are even deceived into believing God told them to do it. With regards to why Christians wantonly sin. I believe that many Christians are not being taught even the basics of how to move in the Spirit, which is the substance of our faith, and unless our faith has substance we don't mature and immature Christians are vulnerable and pray to the roaring lion.
1 Peter 5:8 (ANIV)
Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. I believe that to not take seriously the warfare spoken of in Ephesians, is to leave yourself in danger of defeat.

[smellycat]

i imagine a lot of christians think they hear christ through others aidible voices.
hence the hollywood film,were the kids say yes to everything.

this is how satan works to control people.

this is how he gets at kids,i imagine plenty watched that film,and copied it.

kids tv shows have talking meatballs etc.to get you to do stupid things he needs you to follow him.

[smellycat]

great sales technique,everybody saying yes to the salesmen.....reccesion what recession.?

spirit war is real get wise.

[Chuckt]

Chuckt, If Jesus was teaching the disciples to cast out demons and Paul tells us our fight is with them, and Jesus taught us the method of keeping ourselves free of them, in his encounter with Satan in the desert, why would we disbelieve in their relevance or their existence?

I believe in their existence.

The problem is either people are unsaved, bi-polar or have the wrong wiring in their head.

In college we were shown a paper with a dot in the middle. We were told to stare at it under a lamp. When you looked away you could see the flag. Your mind stores images and light triggers those images through sensory perception.