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[Steveg]

3) But there is another Dispensation here , and that is the Dispensation of Angelic Testing , where Lucifer and those that followed him , fell .

4) So we see that Dispensations really were FIRST and not the Covenant of , Works , Grace , or the ONE Gospel , that I see in all forums .

I thought dispensations were the time periods of God's dealing with man.

How therefore can there be dispensations:
a) before time began
b) before man was created.

Or have dispensationalists redefined dispensationalsm since Darby & Schofield invented it?

[dan p]

I thought dispensations were the time periods of God's dealing with man.

How therefore can there be dispensations:
a) before time began
b) before man was created.

Or have dispensationalists redefined dispensationalsm since Darby & Schofield invented it?

Hi Steveq , I will say , only that they did not invent it , because the word OIKONOMIA which means dispensation is found in the Bible serveral times , which I will list for you ;
#1 , 1 Cor 9:17

#2 , Ephesians 1:10

#3 , Ephesians 3:2

#4 , Col 1:25

#5 , 1 Tim 1:4 , where the word EDIFYING is not in the Greek text , but dispensation is .

OIKOS means House .

NOMOS means Law .

So , that means House Law or house rules , and Paul in the ONLY one that writes what Dispensation really means .

[weareisaac]

dan p said:

"Hi , weareisaac , the 2 passages that I wrote are BEFORE the foundation of the world ,and I did not see that in the Heb13:20 verse ?"


yes but in Heb13:29 it refers to the "new" covenant as an eternal covenant, eternal being before the world began. So this eternal covenant was planned before the world began.

[Steveg]

Hi Steveq , I will say , only that they did not invent it , because the word OIKONOMIA which means dispensation is found in the Bible serveral times , which I will list for you ;
#1 , 1 Cor 9:17

#2 , Ephesians 1:10

#3 , Ephesians 3:2

#4 , Col 1:25

#5 , 1 Tim 1:4 , where the word EDIFYING is not in the Greek text , but dispensation is .

OIKOS means House .

NOMOS means Law .

So , that means House Law or house rules , and Paul in the ONLY one that writes what Dispensation really means .

Firstly you can list the times when the word "dispensation" occiurs in the Bible (in the KJV translation) because they are so few and by one writer only. The word Covenant occurs some 200+ time but seems to ignored.

Secondly whils the word OIKONOMIA may appear in the KJV as dispensation but otherwise by other transaltions, the building of a whole theology on this special translation and meaning of dispensation was invented by Darby and Scholfied about 150 years ago.

[Steveg]

Hi Steveq , I will say , only that they did not invent it , because the word OIKONOMIA which means dispensation is found in the Bible serveral times , which I will list for you ;
#1 , 1 Cor 9:17

#2 , Ephesians 1:10

#3 , Ephesians 3:2

#4 , Col 1:25

#5 , 1 Tim 1:4 , where the word EDIFYING is not in the Greek text , but dispensation is .

OIKOS means House .

NOMOS means Law .

So , that means House Law or house rules , and Paul in the ONLY one that writes what Dispensation really means .

You still haven't answered my question:

I thought dispensations were the time periods of God's dealing with man.

How therefore can there be dispensations:
a) before time began
b) before man was created.

[dan p]

You still haven't answered my question:

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Hi Steveq , I have answered that question , that Dispensationals began BEFORE the world began , and it then becomes a time word , showing when Dispensations , began .

Of course dispensations include TIME as it need time for it to be dispensed , as dispensational time is already spme 2000 years .

Do Covenants use TIME ?

All that do not understand what Paul reveals about Dispensations should read Eph 3:2 , " If ye have heard of the Dispensation of the grace of God which is GIVEN to you-ward . Eph 3:2

Then in Col 1:25 , " Wherefore I am made a minister , according to THE DISPENSATION OF GOD which is GIVEN to me for you .

In 1 Cor 14:37 , under the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit , you read this , If anyone thinks himself to be a Prophet or Spiritual , let him know accurately that the things I ( Paul ) write to you are the COMMANDMENTS of the Lord .

The bible says that Christ was SLAIN from the foundation of the world . Rev 13:8 , and do you think that INCLUDED TIME ?

[Steveg]

Hi Steveq , I have answered that question , that Dispensationals began BEFORE the world began , and it then becomes a time word , showing when Dispensations , began .

Of course dispensations include TIME as it need time for it to be dispensed , as dispensational time is already spme 2000 years .

Do Covenants use TIME ?

All that do not understand what Paul reveals about Dispensations should read Eph 3:2 , " If ye have heard of the Dispensation of the grace of God which is GIVEN to you-ward . Eph 3:2

Then in Col 1:25 , " Wherefore I am made a minister , according to THE DISPENSATION OF GOD which is GIVEN to me for you .

In 1 Cor 14:37 , under the Inspiration of the Holy Spirit , you read this , If anyone thinks himself to be a Prophet or Spiritual , let him know accurately that the things I ( Paul ) write to you are the COMMANDMENTS of the Lord .

The bible says that Christ was SLAIN from the foundation of the world . Rev 13:8 , and do you think that INCLUDED TIME ?

If dispensations are time words how can there be dispensations before time began?

If there are dispensations in the oT how come there is no mention of them, only covenants - several of them?

[Onesiphorus]

Dear Steveg ,what are you talking about ?