Is Darwinian Evolution Biblical?

[DaveSlayer]

Is Darwinian Evolution Biblical?

[RibI]

Have you ever read the Bible account?

[DaveSlayer]

Yes I have, and I personally do not believe in the theory of Darwinian Evolution. But there are Christians that believe evolution and God's creation go together. In other words, some Christians believe God used the method of evolution as God's way of creating everything. The question is, is this Biblical? I don't think it is but some might and I would like to hear their thoughts on it.

[canny]

Thoughts, and they are just thoughts, 7 days to me does not mean 7 literal days, thats all, I believe God created the beginning of everything in such a way that it developed and evolved just as he planned

[onesiphorus]

Yes..all created "after their kind " cattle , birds , whales all after their kind in 6 days each day having an "evening" and a "morning"

[DaveSlayer]

Originally Posted by canny

Thoughts, and they are just thoughts, 7 days to me does not mean 7 literal days, thats all, I believe God created the beginning of everything in such a way that it developed and evolved just as he planned

There is no solid proof that anything evolved in the way that Darwin taught. In fact, Darwin never presented his theory as a fact. He had trouble believing it himself.

Apes never evolved into humans. No one has ever seen that happen. There are bones in the dirt that scientists have found and assembled, but much of the skeletons were incomplete and you couldn't really tell what they were. Besides, how come the monkies in the dirt can do something the monkies today can't do?

Evolution wasn't even a theory until the 1700's and then Darwin popularized it in the mid 1800's. It wasn't even accepted for a while either. But once it was accepted and it was taught in science and in all of the text books, it slowly became fact. People started to believe it because it was taught over and over and over again. That is how you get someone to believe a lie and I believe evolution is a lie. It is not Biblical.

Evolution does happen. The evolution that we can observe is called "Micro Evolution". Roses produced a variety of roses, dogs produce a variety of dogs, but you never see a corn stalk evolve into a whale or a hampster. The theory of evolution has millions of years to hide in so that is how they get away with it. All they need to say is that it happened long ago and far away and that is supposed to be good enough. That is not science. That is fantasy.

I think the devil is the one who came up with this evolution theory to destroy people's faith in God. That is what happened to Charles Darwin.

As far as the seven day thing. I guess it doesn't matter if it was seven 24 hour days or seven days of long periods of time. However, we have a hint. "There was evening and morning, the first day". Each 24 hour day as an evening and a morning. Not millions of years. There is no reason to believe that God didn't or couldn't create everything in 7 days. Actually it was six days. On the seventh day He rested.

The reason why many do not believe the days were literal 24 hour days,
(or close to it) is because many try and mix evolution together with the Bible. People assume evolution is true so then the creation must have taken longer than six twenty four hour days. I take scripture over science. Anytime science is correct, it only confirms that the scriptures are true. But science isn't always right. If science contradicts scripture, then the science is wrong.

The burden of proof is at the hands of the evolutionist to provide proof their theory is correct. The Bible nowhere speaks of evolution as Charles Darwin taught it. The Bible says Adam named all the animals. I am sure Adam didn't wait around for millions of years for the next animal to evolve before he named it.

The kind of evolution that Darwin taught is called "Macro Evolution". For example, if a monkey could turn into a human, that would be considered "Macro Evolution". But no one has ever seen this happen. No anmial can evolve into a totally different kind of animal. The Bible says animals brought forth after their kind. A cat and a lion are the same 'kind' of animal. A dog and a wolf are the same 'kind' of animal. You will never see a cat evolve into a wolf or a dog into a lion. You can give it millions of years but it still won't happen.

If an animal could turn into a different kind of animal, that would require some additional DNA to the gene pool. If a monkey were to evolve into a human, somehow the monkey would have to get some human DNA. That is impossible. Sure, God could make it happen that way if He wanted to, but the scriptures do not teach that. God got it right the first time.

Some believe birds evolved into dinosaurs. Well if that were true, at some point during the evolving process, the dinosaur would be half winged and half legged. This kind of creature would most likely not survive. So it would die off before it could ever fully evolve. The heart chambers in a bird and a dinosaur are also very different. It would be pretty difficult for a heart to evolve into a totally different kind of heart, and at the same time be able to pump blood properly. It just would not happen.

Also, there is no reason to believe dinosaurs died off millions of years ago. Every once in a while, dinosaurs are found alive. You just don't hear about very often because it would jeapordize the evolution theory. There aren't any big dinosaurs like T-Rex around these days, but there are probably some logical reasons for that. They were most likely hunted because they were menacing. They would also make a lot of T-Rex steaks and burgers. A few of the marine dinosaurs are believed to still be alive. There are other reasons why a many of the dinosaurs died off, but it's not because they died millions or billions of years ago. At least I don't think it is.

The word "dinosaur" wasn't even invented until the 1800's so they weren't called dinosaurs before that. They probably were hunted and some may have died off because of natural causes. After a while as they became more rare, people probably forgot about them and you just didn't hear about them for a while. They were called "dinosaurs" when their bones were found in the dirt in the 1800's. They were believed to have existed long ago because they have never been seen before. At least not for several generations.

There have been legends of Indians killing off what we call "dinosaurs". A lot of dinosaur like creatures are found drawn in parts of the Grand Canyon by the Native Americans. If you google it, you would probably find some good information on it. There have also been human skeletons found next to dinosaur ones. A lot of ships have recorded spotting "sea dragons" in their log books. It is quite possible that some were faked, but I am sure many of them were real. The oceans are very large and much of them are undiscovered. There could be anything in the oceans.

Anyways, that is it for now. Just some stuff I wanted to share. I hope it was helpful at explaining my position, and also what I believe to the position of scripture.

God Bless!

Dave

[onesiphorus]

Excellent post Dave

[DaveSlayer]

Originally Posted by onesiphorus

Excellent post Dave

Thanks Bro!

[canny]

We done evolution, check out
The Monkey Trail thread.
coz JIP is gonna whack me if I do it again.

[DaveSlayer]

Originally Posted by canny

We done evolution, check out
The Monkey Trail thread.
coz JIP is gonna whack me if I do it again.

I will check it out later. But I am sure I have heard the same arguments before.

This isn't something that should divide the body of Christ, but I strongly hold to the Creation account for the origin of species. I believe it to be Biblical.

Anyways, God Bless!

Dave