Is Darwinian Evolution Biblical?

[JIP]

Originally Posted by Bloodbought

I believe that there is a simple answer to all this arguement of creation against evolution. It is call radio carbon dating.

I am not a scientist, but as I understand it,scientists use radio carbondating to decide how old things are. There are two ways of interpreting the results. One shows the earyh to be millions of years old and the other shows it to be thousands of years old. Scientist believing that the earth must have evolved over millions of years chose the method that gave that result.

If they chose the other interpretation then the earth would only be a thousands of years old and evolution must be nonsense. It also assumes that the rate of radio carbon decay has always been the same. We do not know what happened at the flood but something changed in the earths atmosphere, The waters over the earth dissapeared and we now have rain. That could and probably did change the rado carbon decay rate.

Can any scientific person confirm or deny what I have said?

I am not a scientist, but you are right bloodbought... this issue was dealt with and explained in our first thread on evolution here.

[DaveSlayer]

Originally Posted by JIP

I am not a scientist, but you are right bloodbought... this issue was dealt with and explained in our first thread on evolution here.

Yep, this is one of the biggest reasons why evolutionists believe the way they do. They get mixed results when they date things and choose the dates that they agree with. It's almost like they are being dumb on purpose because they don't want to believe in a Creator. Allthough there are some Christians who believe both the Bible and evolution.

You'd think if evolution was Biblical, then why are we just now knowing about it in the last 300 years? It just seems that God would have talked about it in Genesis if it were true. However, you cannot read the creation account Genesis and come to the conclusion that God used evolution to get us here. At least, not without any pre-conceived ideas.

The fact that Darwin himself had trouble believing his own theory proves that it takes a lot of faith to believe in it. Charles presented evolution as a theory only. It took a while before it was accepted and people believed it as fact. One of the big reasons why people believe lies is because it is constantly told to them. Evolution was taught over and over and over and finally people started believing it. Only if it were this simple with teaching others there is a God and that if you repent, Jesus will forgive you of your sins.

[onesiphorus]

Dear DaveSlayer,
The problem now being that there are many theologians in the world today actually saying that "maybe " evolution is right and that we shouldnt believe in a 6 day creation as in the Word of God , that it was only an allegory

[DaveSlayer]

Originally Posted by onesiphorus

Dear DaveSlayer,
The problem now being that there are many theologians in the world today actually saying that "maybe " evolution is right and that we shouldnt believe in a 6 day creation as in the Word of God , that it was only an allegory

Well, I suppose the creation account in Genesis could be allegorical, but we have no proof that it was. Some say the flood was allegorical and that Noah never really built an ark and that it too was allegorical. If it was just allegory, then why would God give Noah specific instructions as to how to build the ark? If it was allegorical, it is up to theologians to explain why. Jesus also referred to the creation of Adam and to Noah's Ark as past historic events.

I have no trouble believing that God created the earth and everything in 6 literal days. God can do anything, and make something from nothing. Sure, God could have taken millions of years or so, but I believe He did it instantly. Genesis says that God brough animals to Adam so that he could name them. That is a little bit too specific to be considered "allegorical". And if it is indeed allegorical, then what did it mean?

I think the reason why many theologians are saying that much of the Bible is allegory is because they are caught between the Bible and evolution, thus having to try and mix them together. When parts of scripture seem to contradict evolution, it is convenient to say "well that was just allegorical".

I suppose it doesn't matter a lot of God used evolution to get us here, but the theory has a lot of holes in it. It would take a lot of faith to believe in it. Charles Darwin had trouble believing his own theory so I have to commend anyone who still has the faith to believe in it.

[onesiphorus]

I agree completely in what you say and some feel it is good to appear "in line " with the world when infact the world is still an enemy of Christ , I compare all this watering down of the word with Balaams curse on Israel when the Israelites over time through defiance of God married into the moabites and midianites who in turn turned them away from GOd to their own paganism and practices and it is the same today christians being enticed to turn away from Christ and His Word by the world even to the doubting of the Truth .It is the way satan operates in the world ...as a liar and a deceiver

[Bloodbought]

God is not a scientist so is not limited by the laws of science. Scientists are limited by the laws of science. God creates the rules but that means he can also over-rule the laws if he wants

[Jon-Marc]

God can, does, and has gone far beyond the realm of possibility. He is not limited to what is scientifically possible. He can defy gravity, make water run uphill, create something out of nothing, make time run backward, create life out of dead matter. He can see everything that will ever happen in the future. He keeps the sun burning and the planets rotating and moving around the sun. Man tried to explain the possibility of an infinite God according to his limited knowledge and finite mind. Man says "That's impossible", but NOTHING is impossible for an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent God.

[Robert Cragg]

This guestion has been discussed too many time to count.

It's simple you all have a choice there is only a black and white answer. God created the universe and everything in it, all the planets the moons, the sun, the earth, and every living breathing thing ,on, in ,and under, and in the waters.

There is no such thing as evolution, only adaptation.
So if anyone belives this to be wrong they should take it up with the Big Guy upstairs.

[HEYGwenCOG]

I deliberately chose the above title. You all will believe what you will, I suppose but I do not see how evolution and creation can go hand and hand. For instance:

Genesis 1:5
God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

Here, God tells us exactly what makes up a day. Now if you want to believe that that first day was actually a thousand days from daylight to darkness, I guess you could do that, but if we use that line of thinking, just how long did Jesus hang on the cross? How many days was Noah aboard the ark, and just how long did Methusalem actually live.

And if a day were actually a thousand days, just how old was Jesus when Mary and Joseph carried Him out of Bethlehem because of the danger Herod imposed.

Just a few things for you to think about. As for me, I think a day in the Bible was just like out day. I just don't think the world is as old as evolutionists say it is.

[onesiphorus]

I agree completely with you . This is the problem faced by those who dont take the bible literally , when do you choose , the point is that then the one who chooses becomes the final authority and not the Word of God