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    Quote Originally Posted by marcelle19 View Post
    Because man doesn't know that, smelly...he is so ready to take the place of His Creator, the only righteous Judge:
    Just because you do not see the error, doesn't mean I am overstepping my bounds.

    You have tried to correct others and not all receive the correction nor see the error.

    When a false prophet has gone overboard, it is easy to point them out.

    Same thing with these movements of the "Spirit".

    But yet like these movement of the Spirit, none dare trace it back to the small leaven of the Pharisees that started it off to leaven into a whole lump.

    It is easy to point when they have gone overboard in spite of all things said and done that was not consistent with the Gospel preached. If we are called to correct one another and no one is exempt, then to believe that Billy Graham can make no mistake or to look the other way and say... well we all are human after all.. then error continues and spreads.

    It took the Lord a long time for me to hear what He was trying to tell me through His Words because I would not believe that my church nor the leaders would steer me wrong. I did not ask the Lord why He was bugging me when I was led to believe that believing in Jesus Christ was not enough because they posed the question.. is He your Saviour only or is He Lord as well? Then I was led to believe that making a commitment to Christ would make Him Lord as well, but it didn't. It made the commitment to Christ as "lord" over me whereas before He was already Lord over me as Saviour.

    Watch - there will most likely be replies to this post that condemn what I just said, but I don't care, because what I said is what the Word of God plainly teaches, to all who look at it with eyes of faith.
    I understand your position and your reservation, but the eyes of faith has been moved away from Jesus to the believer to look to himself to keep that commitment to follow Christ to live as His as well as for obtaining salvation.

    So what are my words pointing to? Faith in Jesus Christ.

    What did Billy's altar call pointed to? The making of the commitment to follow Christ by the believer.

    Which one do mighty men and nobles of the world would respond to?
    A divided hope is an insecure hope and thereby lacking the necessary assurance for that singular hope to be hope.

    Let nothing divide your hope in Jesus. Colossians 1:20-23

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    To be honest I've always been wary of this very public Television type evangelists.
    At first I thought it was just me being very cynical or lacking in Spiritual understanding.
    I don't kick myself anymore for feeling uncomfortable with them, I'd much rather be the odd one out than go along with everyone else.

    ALways makes me raise an eyebrow when I see the likes of Benny Hinn and the like in their fancy suits, expensive handmade shoes, rolex watches, listening to stories of them flying around the world in private jets and living a lifestyle most of us could only dream of and now I'm never afraid to say, " There's just something thats not right about it "

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    they are dangerous because superficially it all sounds so plausible ,and wonderful and emotion charged ,yet you listen very carefully and at the same time holding tight to the Words of God in the Gospel of Christ ,and you will knowand detect the poison on the end of the spoon of sugar

    The little leaven than leaveneth the whole lump

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    I believe we must be as the watchmen ,and mark those who the divisions and the stumbling blocks ,contrary to the teaching that ye did learn and avoid them

    This is what Paul tells us in Romans 16:17

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    To be honest I've always been wary of this very public Television type evangelists.
    At first I thought it was just me being very cynical or lacking in Spiritual understanding.
    I don't kick myself anymore for feeling uncomfortable with them, I'd much rather be the odd one out than go along with everyone else.

    ALways makes me raise an eyebrow when I see the likes of Benny Hinn and the like in their fancy suits, expensive handmade shoes, rolex watches, listening to stories of them flying around the world in private jets and living a lifestyle most of us could only dream of and now I'm never afraid to say, " There's just something thats not right about it "

    Indeed.

    Popularity should be the first sign to take pause.

    Matthew 7:13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

    I read these passages as those movements or crusades that are popular where "many" are going in thereat should be the reason to take pause.

    Is it impossible for the Lord to save many? No.

    But what is really going on?

    What is the name of the Crusade? What is the name of the Movement?

    If some other name is being waved in that banner, then we should really be discerning more.

    If some other name is being acreditted, then we can see the false prophets and the false spirits.

    If Jesus' name is above every other name, then no other name should be "honoured" nor "glorified" in that banner as Jesus Christ is the Gospel.

    No other means.. no other gimmicks... no other method.. no other program.. no matter how godly it looks... can make the difference because Jesus Christ is the difference... the only difference ... the power.. the strength in living the christian life and why we are called to put on the Lord Jesus Christ as He is Our Strength... our beautiful wedding garments as it is His righteousness that is bringing us Home as the power in living the christian life is of God only.
    A divided hope is an insecure hope and thereby lacking the necessary assurance for that singular hope to be hope.

    Let nothing divide your hope in Jesus. Colossians 1:20-23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pariah View Post
    If you recall the event well enough, then can you recall the altar call then?

    And is he using that same altar call before he had left?

    Is it the same altar call that Franklin is carrying on with in the crusades?

    The one I heard.. the one Franklin is carrying over .. is this one...

    "If you are not sure you are saved... come forward and make a commitment to follow Christ."

    Is that the one you responded to many years ago? If not, then know that is not the altar call he had left with as Franklin is issuing that same altar call now.
    I'm fairly sure that Billy Graham never mention anything regarding anyone being unsure of their salvation, I knew I was a sinner that night in 1955 I knew that needed to accept Christ's off that night. I'd heard many sermons in my young life, but that night I knew that God was speaking to me and I could not get away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onesiphorus View Post
    they are dangerous because superficially it all sounds so plausible ,and wonderful and emotion charged ,yet you listen very carefully and at the same time holding tight to the Words of God in the Gospel of Christ ,and you will knowand detect the poison on the end of the spoon of sugar

    The little leaven than leaveneth the whole lump
    And may God peradventure give us knowledge unto repentance so that He may recover them from the snare of the devil.

    For a believer to be a witness of Him, how can they claim these scriptures as part of that witness when in their testimony, they speak of their commitment to follow Christ 2 Corinthians 4:5-7 thus speaking of themselves and say they are standing fast in that liberty when any commitment is a yoke of bondage to do and to finish something Galatians 5:1-6 ?

    If our witness does not match up with the Word of God... then we need Jesus' help to make it so.

    Psalm 19:14Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
    A divided hope is an insecure hope and thereby lacking the necessary assurance for that singular hope to be hope.

    Let nothing divide your hope in Jesus. Colossians 1:20-23

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    Quote Originally Posted by onesiphorus View Post
    I believe we must be as the watchmen ,and mark those who the divisions and the stumbling blocks ,contrary to the teaching that ye did learn and avoid them

    This is what Paul tells us in Romans 16:17
    May the Lord help all those that seek Him to see the truth in how to please Him and not to please nor seek the approval of man.
    A divided hope is an insecure hope and thereby lacking the necessary assurance for that singular hope to be hope.

    Let nothing divide your hope in Jesus. Colossians 1:20-23

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    Pariah you wouldnt be judging the man would you.? i don,t follow billy graham but i really find no merit in your post. i have read several things he has written i have read nothing false

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    Quote Originally Posted by ByHisGrace View Post
    I'm fairly sure that Billy Graham never mention anything regarding anyone being unsure of their salvation, I knew I was a sinner that night in 1955 I knew that needed to accept Christ's off that night. I'd heard many sermons in my young life, but that night I knew that God was speaking to me and I could not get away.
    Well then, you heard him preach fully the Gospel at a time when he was being used by the Lord.

    Billy used to take a hard line stance against the Roman Catholic Church: that has changed obviously. If that be changed, so has the altar call.

    I can testify of not only hearing Billy Graham offer that religious altar call for salvation in person at the Urbana Conference in USA, but I also heard him say it in the later years of his ministry on television.

    They are shwoing what they call is the "classics" of Billy Graham. I have not watched them yet to see when and where he started that religious altar call, but needless to say, his son, Franklin, is carrying on that "tradition".

    So be on alert... and thank the Lord you heard the gospel at the time Billy preached it fully.
    A divided hope is an insecure hope and thereby lacking the necessary assurance for that singular hope to be hope.

    Let nothing divide your hope in Jesus. Colossians 1:20-23

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