the meaning of life

[canny]

sorry canny but you annoyed me,i will try to refrain from such emotions.

Thank you hun

[smellycat]

the thread was about us spiritualy,ie the objective of life.
we are being driven as a society by the lusts of the flesh and not the spirit.
the lusts of the flesh is to gain advantage over others for self glory.
self joy etc.
there is no team,as people say there is no i in team.
the goal of this kingdom being built or who is building it seems to be a mystery.
God does have overall control,but if the majority of the world leaders have a unsaved spirit,this would make these people aggainst God.
what you are forgetting is this for you to say God controls leaders,you say God controlled hitler,controlled the nuclear bomb in hiroshima bombed pearl harbour etc etc.
are you saying God controls some leaders or all leaders.?
what does Christ say,i never knew you workers of iniquity.
God gets involved when people cry out and pray.
even the religious tv etc tell you what to pray for.
this is a greater evil.

[smellycat]

can i ask 1 question,when the cold war was in full flight,and both countries were prodomonotely Christian,which country was God in control of.?
and why if both were christian based was there a conflict.?
the answer is always the leaders .

[smellycat]

this is a spirit war.humans are used as robots,be careful which robot you vote for.

[Galaen]

Robots have not choice Cat, every human being has choice about every decision they make. The choice may not always be an easy one and sometimes there may only be one obvious choice but we always have the choice. We say that he or she or this or that made us do something but we make the decision as to how to react to something. Sometimes that decision is the right one and sometimes it is the wrong one - sometimes there isn't a right or wrong. One thing is certain, we are not robots - none of us. God made man in his own image, we are told in Genesis, so are you saying that God is a robot?

[smellycat]

slave to sin answers your question.

[canny]

Not everything a leader does is sinful, it may often be unpopular, but someone has to do it, or there would be chaos.

Take for example how each Moderator is different, there is no right way, just the best way we can at the time.

[BENONI]

The unsaved leaders like Hitler, Stalin and the like no matter power or ability no matter how evil to stop one small hair of God’s sovereign plan for the ages.

Stop looking at the circumstances and look at God for whom and what God truly is; perhaps your problem is all you see is flesh, the flesh or carnality of the world. We have fleshly eyes, fleshly ears, minds that control which are but temporal; how can this have anything to do with God’s plan for all of humanity. We are all born with a carnal beastly mind that happened because of the curse, you in me an all the world did not choose the world, its corrupt leaders or the Adamic nature we were born with. This may surprise probably all of you but Adam had no choice in the garden, it was God’s sovereign plan for Adam/or all of us to fall to this limited human experience.

Please read the following I love how the MSG brings this verse alive.

Romans 8:18-21 (MSG) That's why I don't think there's any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. The created world itself can hardly wait for what's coming next. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens.

22-25All around us we observe a pregnant creation. The difficult times of pain throughout the world are simply birth pangs. But it's not only around us; it's within us. The Spirit of God is arousing us within. We're also feeling the birth pangs. These sterile and barren bodies of ours are yearning for full deliverance. That is why waiting does not diminish us, any more than waiting diminishes a pregnant mother. We are enlarged in the waiting. We, of course, don't see what is enlarging us. But the longer we wait, the larger we become, and the more joyful our expectancy.

the thread was about us spiritualy,ie the objective of life.
we are being driven as a society by the lusts of the flesh and not the spirit.
the lusts of the flesh is to gain advantage over others for self glory.
self joy etc.
there is no team,as people say there is no i in team.
the goal of this kingdom being built or who is building it seems to be a mystery.
God does have overall control,but if the majority of the world leaders have a unsaved spirit,this would make these people aggainst God.
what you are forgetting is this for you to say God controls leaders,you say God controlled hitler,controlled the nuclear bomb in hiroshima bombed pearl harbour etc etc.
are you saying God controls some leaders or all leaders.?
what does Christ say,i never knew you workers of iniquity.
God gets involved when people cry out and pray.
even the religious tv etc tell you what to pray for.
this is a greater evil.

[BENONI]

Carnal man did not choose his state of being, did you choose your parents, the country or color of skin, when you were born? If Adam did not fall he would of been nothing but a robot doing God's will, preprogramed. It is the process of redemption God is after; Adam had no choice.

Robots have not choice Cat, every human being has choice about every decision they make. The choice may not always be an easy one and sometimes there may only be one obvious choice but we always have the choice. We say that he or she or this or that made us do something but we make the decision as to how to react to something. Sometimes that decision is the right one and sometimes it is the wrong one - sometimes there isn't a right or wrong. One thing is certain, we are not robots - none of us. God made man in his own image, we are told in Genesis, so are you saying that God is a robot?