Are we Jewish.

[Spiritofprophecy]

That isn't the reason:

2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, [which] put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which [vail] is done away in Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2 Corinthians 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.

Greetings in the name of Jesus:


These verses are correct; yet they do not speak about the Cause of Jewish being blinded, behind the veil but what exists... the Veil is what separates God from man in the temple...Since Jew doesn't accept Jesus; to them the veil still exist. Soon they will accept Jesus, and the veil of separation of Jew and God, will be taken away. The Jew still lives under the Law, and Old covenant(behind the Veil), not accepting the fulfillment of Christ Jesus the Eternal sacrifice.

But again, I am only speaking unto what the foundation Jewish faith did establish as truth, which Truth was accepted By Jesus. And it is Not the Multitude of "Precepts of man" Taught today by Christian denominations..Rooted in One sure truth,,, Christ Jesus the Messiah and God.

These institutional concepts would never be accepted by Jesus or pre Jesus faithful and Prophets. One needs to know how strict, and Non Gentile and Pagan the early Christian Disciples were. All early Christian except for Paul, sought not, that Gentiles to even be allowed into the Church, Led by Peter and James brother of Jesus in Jerusalem. But the vision unto Peter,from Jesus; changed his mind.
......But Western Christians are still the " flat earth" multi denominational faith out of vanity religions foundations of Catholic middle ages. Is insomnia really a "demon possession"...?
.... I can find a Christian Church, to agree with about anything almost today I wish..You want to be Openly Gay, and accepted; or Gay marriage...? there is a place in Christianity. And yet, somehow, I know this is Gods will for Gods "Strange Act, and Strange end". We Christians win in the end, Praise God. Tribulation times are first.

I pray my words do not offend, Let me repeat, I pray my word will not offend, and not intended to offend; God bless all Christians in forum, and all those who use it.

[Onesiphorus]

Dear Chuckt ,that is exactly the reason ,and it is for that very reason that covenant and replacement theology is scripturally incorrect ,because we are not and cannot be Israel as Gods people and nation ,either physically or spiritually

[Chuckt]

These verses are correct; yet they do not speak about the Cause of Jewish being blinded, behind the veil but what exists... the Veil is what separates God from man in the temple...Since Jew doesn't accept Jesus; to them the veil still exist. Soon they will accept Jesus, and the veil of separation of Jew and God, will be taken away. The Jew still lives under the Law, and Old covenant(behind the Veil), not accepting the fulfillment of Christ Jesus the Eternal sacrifice.

It isn't the cause. It is the result.

Exodus 34:29 And it came to pass, when Moses came down from mount Sinai with the two tables of testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with him.
Exodus 34:30 And when Aaron and all the children of Israel saw Moses, behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.
Exodus 34:33 And [till] Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.

2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, [which] put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

And I think the reason is that Moses kept putting the veil over his face because he didn't want the children of Israel to know that the glow was fading. Because they don't know they don't realize that it will end.

[antonia]

No we are not Jewish. To be Jewish your mother has to have been Jewish, or else you convert. If we are Christians we are not going to convert. It is good to recognise the Jewish roots of our faith but that doesn't make us Jewish and we don't have to be anyway.

The orthodox Jews are not keen on Christians (whom they describe as "******ians") who talk about messianic Judaism or try to be Jewish and Christian.

[DeaconDan]

No we are not Jewish. To be Jewish your mother has to have been Jewish, or else you convert.

You gave the so-called Jew's definition of a Jew, which is better than many Christians can do. However, The biblical definition of a Jew is that a true Jew is someone who is a Christian.

Do you think non-Christian Jews are God's chosen people? If so, does a gentile convert become one of God's chosen people? Is a man born of a jewish convert one of God's chosen people?

It is good to recognise the Jewish roots of our faith but that doesn't make us Jewish and we don't have to be anyway.

Do you think Jesus is the Messiah spoken of in the Old Testament and do you think Jesus and God are one? If yes, then how is it that so-called Jews who reject Jesus as the Messiah have the same faith as that of Moses and Abraham? What did Jesus say about this?

[farouk]

Paul in Romans 2.29 says: 'he is not a Jew, but that is one inwardly', and he goes on to speak of the circumcision of the heart by faith.

[Steveg]

Paul describes us as the wild olive shoot that is grafted in to share the rich root of the (cultivated) olive tree, and says the root supports us. (Rom 11:17-18)

So we have Jewish roots, which we share with Jews. That Jewish root supports us so it is relevant to us.

[Steveg]

Dear Chuckt ,that is exactly the reason ,and it is for that very reason that covenant and replacement theology is scripturally incorrect ,because we are not and cannot be Israel as Gods people and nation ,either physically or spiritually

Jesus said "This cup is the new covenant in my blood."

He didn't say "This cup is the new dispensation in my blood"

[Onesiphorus]

DEar steveg ,read Ephesians 3 I suggest the GEneva Study Bible or the Authorised Version ,may help you

[Steveg]

DEar steveg ,read Ephesians 3 I suggest the GEneva Study Bible or the Authorised Version ,may help you

I was thinking more that you may need help to understand covenants and in particular the New Covenant that Jesus is the sole mediator of. All you need to do is read the Bible

to that same degree has Jesus (also) become the guarantee of an (even) better covenant.(Heb 7:22)

Now he has obtained so much more excellent a ministry as he is mediator of a better covenant, enacted on better promises (Heb 8:6)

For this reason he is mediator of a new covenant: (Heb 9:15)

Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant (Heb 12:24)

Paul was minister of the new covenant (2Cor 3:6)

Not a dispensation in sight.