Best evidence to date that Jesus died on a Wednesday

[todd_vetter33]

Recently I have discovered solid testimonial evidence that the Original Passover Lamb was Slain on a Wednesday. The evidence comes from the time specific testimony found in Exodus 16 which identifies two seventh day Sabbaths in the second month of the same year as the exodus from Egypt. When you align that testmony on a calenar chart and count backward according to the jewish reconning of days and months, you discover that the Original Passover lamb was slain on 14 Nissan/abbib and that day would be on the day we currently call wednesday.

Here is a simple calendar chart that illustrates this objectively by illustrating a 2009 calender (representing a wednesday Passover) and also a 1998 calendar chart (representing a Friday Passover) See link.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.co...0Wednesday.pdf

What is revealed is that Wednesday is the only day possible for the original Passover of exodus to be placed on due to the testimony in Exodus 16

With Jesus claiming to fulfill all things in the Laws of Moses. He had to fulfill this time line of Events for the Original Passover Lamb.

All the Roman Doctrine from History needed to illustrate that Jesus fulfilled this time line of events in every way can be found at this link.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.co...surrection.pdf

Blessings,

Todd

[Bloodbought]

Here is the result of a study I did into the crucifixion day. I hope it makes sense. I agree that the crucifixion was not on a Friday. More likely to have been after 6pm on Wednesday or Thursday.

Friday Arrived in Bethany 6 days before Passover
Saturday Sabbath
Sunday Triumphal Entry
Monday Clearing of Temple
Tuesday Controversy over Parables
Wednesday ???????
Thursday Passover 14th Nissan
Friday Crucifixion
Saturday Sabbath
Sunday Resurrection 1st Day of week


Mt 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
The above only allows for two nights. Possible three days in we count parts of a day as a full day.

Jewish day starts at 6pm so Ist day is 6pm Friday until 6pm Saturday

Thur/Fri 6th Arrived at Bethany 6 days before Passover
Fri/Sat 7th Sabbath
Sat/Sun !st Triumphal entry
Sun/Mon 2nd Clearing of temple
Mon/Tues 3rd Controversy over Parables
Tues/Wed 4th Passover (Tue Eve) &
Wed/Thu 5th Crucifixion 14th Nissan Preparation Day Luk 23 v54
Thu/Fri 6th Special Sabbat 15th Nissan. Next day (one after Preparation day) Mat 27v 62
Fri/Sat 7th Sabbath
Sat/Sun 1st Resurrection (Sat Evening) 1st Day of week

[DeaconDan]

Todd, okay, Wednesday. You put a lot of work into this.

I do not think anyone has followed your argument. People are challenged enough following the logic of something short and simple. Your argument is long and convoluted. If it were short and simple, you could make your case in one paragraph without links. Like I just did.

[todd_vetter33]

Todd, okay, Wednesday. You put a lot of work into this.

I do not think anyone has followed your argument. People are challenged enough following the logic of something short and simple. Your argument is long and convoluted. If it were short and simple, you could make your case in one paragraph without links. Like I just did.

Though a very compelling case, Is it truth? Does it illustrate that jesus fulfilled all things in the Laws of Moses?

Did what I shared speak according to the Laws of Moses and the testimony of Jesus?

Very respectfully,

Todd

[todd_vetter33]

I realized you are not the same person as the reply just before your post. My apologies.

Very respectfully,

Todd

[todd_vetter33]

I made a more simplified chart for Text to Time comparison regarding Exodus 16 and how it illustrates the Original Passover Lamb was Slain on Wednesday.

It can be accessed at this link and printed for a side by side comparison of text vs Time as God defined it. Hope you enjoy the product.

http://www.thedeathandresurection.co...r%20Theory.pdf

God Bless

[todd_vetter33]

I took the time to illustrate some google earth screen shots in order to illustrate the time that had to pass for Israel to depart from Elim, to the wilderness of sin. This duration of time includes testimony from Numbers 33 which states the children of isreal after departing Elim made camp by the red sea. From the red sea they traveled to the wilderness of sin.

pages 4-6 illustrates the placement markers and the Milage that they had to cover which clears any confusion that may arrise by some bible versions trying to Portray the 15th day of the second month as a day of travel.

When all information is considered, it becomes clear that some bible versions are not telling a solid truth of this matter.

Here is the link.
http://www.thedeathandresurection.co...r%20Theory.pdf

Be sure to hit the re-fresh button so that the new screen shots can be seen

God Bless

[todd_vetter33]

It is said that the bible is the unchanging perfect word of God. I know the word of God to be the spirit of truth that men are to receive when they are born again as was promised by Jesus when he said he would pour out His spirit on His followers. Do men make a true declaration when they state the bible is God's word? If so which version is the unchanging word of God? Below I illustrate the first two verses of Exodus 16 as it appears in every English translation of the book title "Holy Bible" as seen from Bible gateway.com. What is discovered is confusion regarding when the 15th day of the second month actually occured. I left out what bible version each verse was taken from since men make the claim that "the bible is the perfect word of God". Because this statement is held to be a truth, it should not matter which version these verses came out from.

It's said that God is not the author of confusion. What you will witness by examining every bible version for the way men have translated the first two verses of Exodus 16 is a picture perfect definition of confusion. Question is this; Were any of the translators less inspired by the spirit of God than others? Is the real issue discovered below that men translated a verse based on half the truth because they did not know there was more to the story regarding the travel from Elim to the wilderness of sin? Does Hebrew punctuation lead to the confusion illustrated below?

The million dollar questions are these, did isreal make the journey from Elim to the wilderness of sin in a single day? When did the 15th day of the second month from the exodus from Egypt actually occur, was it when they departed Elim or was it when they arrived in the wilderness of sin? Was it after they arrived in the wilderness of sin? God's word is a light to this confusion. Do you know God's word? (sprit of truth from heaven)

A verse to consider when viewing the below verses of exodus 16 is numbers 33 9-12.

Numbers 33:09-12
They moved from Marah and came to Elim. At Elim were twelve springs of water and seventy palm trees; so they camped there. They moved from Elim and camped by the Red Sea. 11 They moved from the Red Sea and camped in the Wilderness of Sin. 12 They journeyed from the Wilderness of Sin and camped at Dophkah.

What is missing from the first two verses of Exodus 16 that effects punctuation and translation is the fact that Israel camped at the red sea after departing from Elim and before arriving at the Wilderness of sin.

Exdodus 15 last verse - Exodus 16:1-2 from every English bible version

These verses specifically state they began their journey from Elim on the 15th day.
Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. On the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left Egypt, the whole company of Israel moved on from Elim to the Wilderness of Sin which is between Elim and Sinai. The whole company of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron there in the wilderness.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. On the fifteenth day of the second month after the Israelites had escaped from Egypt, they left Elim and started through the western edge of the Sinai Desert [a] in the direction of Mount Sinai. 2There in the desert they started complaining to Moses and Aaron,

These next verses specifically states they arrived in the wilderness of Sin on the 15th day.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. Then the whole community of Israel set out from Elim and journeyed into the wilderness of Sin,[a] between Elim and Mount Sinai. They arrived there on the fifteenth day of the second month, one month after leaving the land of Egypt.[b] 2 There, too, the whole community of Israel complained about Moses and Aaron.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. Then the whole community of Israel set out from Elim and journeyed into the wilderness of Sin,[a] between Elim and Mount Sinai. They arrived there on the fifteenth day of the second month, one month after leaving the land of Egypt.[b] 2 There, too, the whole community of Israel complained about Moses and Aaron.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. The whole Israelite community left Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which was between Elim and Sinai; they arrived there on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left Egypt.2 Then the whole Israelite community grumbled to Moses and Aaron in the desert.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. The whole community of Israel started out from Elim. They came to the Desert of Sin. It was between Elim and Sinai. They arrived there on the 15th day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community told Moses and Aaron they weren't happy with them.

The standard majority verse below implies that they set out from Elim and arrived in the wilderness of sin on the 15th day. Due to lack of information it’s implied that this event took only one day as they are written below.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. 1Then they set out from Elim, and all the congregation of the sons of Israel came to the wilderness of (A)Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on (B)the fifteenth day of the second month after their departure from the land of Egypt. . 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. THEY SET out from Elim, and all the congregation of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they left the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness,

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness:

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness:

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. 1They(A) set out from Elim, and all the congregation of the people of Israel came to the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had departed from the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the people of Israel(B) grumbled against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness,

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they journeyed from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt. 2 Then the whole congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2 And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron in the wilderness:

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they journey from Elim, and all the company of the sons of Israel come in unto the wilderness of Sin, which [is] between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month of their going out from the land of Egypt. 2And all the company of the sons of Israel murmur against Moses and against Aaron in the wilderness;

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. And they journeyed from Elim, and the whole assembly of the children of Israel came into the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departure out of the land of Egypt. 2And the whole assembly of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron in the wilderness.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. The entire Israelite community departed from Elim and came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left the land of Egypt. (A) 2 The entire Israelite community grumbled (B) against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron.

Would Exodus 16 look more like this when the full truth of the matter is fully examined and taken in full context with the testimony that follows for the rest of the chapter of Exodus 16?

They journeyed from Elim, and camped by the Red sea. They moved from the Red Sea and all the congregation of the children of Israel came to the Wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, and camped. On the fifteenth day of the second month after they departed from the land of Egypt, 2 the whole congregation of the children of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness.

What are your thoughts?

[Jamesb1981]

Well don't forget that the Calenders have been changes several times throughout history.

Middle Eastern and Western Calenders are different anyway.

All that matters is that he was crucified, was raised and will come again in Glory!

Amen!

[DeaconDan]

It is said that the bible is the unchanging perfect word of God... It's said that God is not the author of confusion. What you will witness by examining every bible version for the way men have translated the first two verses of Exodus 16 is a picture perfect definition of confusion.

Todd, when you make such a bold assertion, you best have something solid to back it up with.

These verses specifically state they began their journey from Elim on the 15th day.
Then they came to Elim, where there were twelve springs and seventy palm trees, and they camped there near the water. On the fifteenth day of the second month after they had left Egypt, the whole company of Israel moved on from Elim to the Wilderness of Sin which is between Elim and Sinai. The whole company of Israel complained against Moses and Aaron there in the wilderness.

You should feel an obligation to provide version identification when you are trying to make a point by quoting the same verse in different versions. In this case, you would have exposed that you are quoting from a one-man paraphrase, something that no one should ever use to mount arguments about the Bible.

These next verses specifically states they arrived in the wilderness of Sin on the 15th day.

These are the translations commonly used by self-respecting Christians, and the only ones you should use to mount arguments about the Bible.

The standard majority verse below implies that they set out from Elim and arrived in the wilderness of sin on the 15th day. Due to lack of information it’s implied that this event took only one day as they are written below.

The verse in question implies nothing about when the journey began (a vague paraphrase aside), only when the journey ended. Obviously, if the second location is more than a few miles away, it is not possible to assume that a whole nation made the journey in one day. Even if the verse were vague, it takes crassness to think an impossible interpretation is a reasonable interpretation.