Hell is a turn off

[kitty]

Originally Posted by Jon-Marc

The Light shined in my eyes, mind, and heart on May 18, 1963 when I called on the Lord for forgiveness and was saved! The gospel is really so simple that even a child can understand it. There's no need to make it complicated. I believe there are some things we're not meant to understand, but the important thing to understand is that we're lost and need a Saviour. That Saviour is Jesus Christ the Lord of lords and King of kings, the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

((Jon-Marc)) Agreed I have heard it said the things we don't understand belong to God.

[Faith]

Originally Posted by canny

Ya would need some good oven mits

Canny,

Can you remember how old the old Lampstand was before we moved here?
I can still see it clearly and I was wondering if we can still access it?

Love Faith.xx

By the way, when I see this smilie I grin and think of you.

[canny]

lol Faith, no we cant access the old one now , I remember tho', just about ....

[gibby]

Originally Posted by canny

lol Faith, no we cant access the old one now , I remember tho', just about ....

That's because it was hacked.

[JIP]

Originally Posted by Absolute Truth

Dont be sorry Gibby. I am actually quite relieved that it was sarcasm and that it is not truly your hearts desire.

All is good. If you truly believe that all I am speaking is simply mans truth than that is where you stand.

Before I sign off I would like to clarify that nowhere have I intended that people see bibles as useless and throw them away. I myself still use the KGV but I have recorded the errors in translation and keep note of it as I study.

Please don't get the wrong impression from what I am actually saying or implying.

God Bless, Dave

Hello Dave,
If I am permitted to say something here may I take an example of a tea leaf. A tea leaf is grown in nature, provided to us by God. When the leaf is matured it is ready for a cup of tea. But what has happened now is that people have come up with many brands of tea (added flavours, etc) .... but all these still dont beat the old fashioned tea does it?

The tea didnt not judge itself, others did. The tea is as it was before, now and after. It's when people started judging ( I am not innocent in this )and making changes that we have so many brands now. But nomatter what is said and done the product we get from nature is still the same.

The truth is always with God.
Be Blessed
JIP

[Absolute Truth]

To All those who have replied to my posts,

I will be making my replies soon. I have just been really busy these last couple of days but I assure you I am not ignoring your posts.

Thanks for your patience and God bless, Dave

[Bloodbought]

Jesus said Mt 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

He also said Joh 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No-one comes to the Father except through me.

The way to life is the narrow way that few find. It is Jesus Christ. Those that find that way go to life and those who do not find it go to destruction. When something is destroyed it is final. Just as death is final. Death ends up in the Lake of Fire.

Jesu Christ give those who believe VICTORY over death because they are on the narrow way that leads to life. This victory over death is not for everyone. Death is not defeated for those who do not believe.

1 Cor 15 v 51 ¶ Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
"Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.
But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Those who do not calim Jesus Christ as Lord will not have the victory over death.

This victory over death takes place when Jesus returns for His Church not at some time later when people have been in death (Hell or hades) for a time.

[gondola crescent]

When I think of creatures that had the ability to sense the presence of God continually and see Him for what He is and be further able to contemplate the future and the "what-ifs?" associated with eternity I have little trouble thinking of God managed torture for such beings as these that would have the audaucity (is there a word for it) to gaze upon the face of God and yet allow themselves to commit the ultimate act of rebellion.
Justice must one day be leveled and allowed to prevail. I suspect God knows that satan and his host will be so perverted and twisted in their beings as to perhaps actually think they like and enjoy everlasting torture and punishment when finally, they get it. To be candid: It's something I don't bother to think about much. My mind is usually occupied engaged in sin or defying the temptation to sin and the ideas are deposited there by the satanic host. I hate them. I hope they fry and I hope it hurts. I have no sympathy for demons. They started the movement that caused Christ to suffer the most unjustified, horrible torture to be inflicted in all history. Not the physical torture we can imagine but imagine the depravity of being cut-off from The Father for just a moment, being looked on and rejected for the first and only time in all time as something disgusting and filthy. Could there be a torture worse than that? I can only imagine but I don't think there is. We are commanded to love our neighbours and to pray for our enemies--but I think Christ was referring to our earthly enemies. I see no directions concerning our state of mind towards spiritual creatures.
When someone murders your child or you feel the agony of solid physical pain, consult at that time your feelings about the future suffering of demons and satan. I think you won't care. I think you'll wish God would hurry it all up and turn the heat up an extra notch.

[Bloodbought]

If people turn their backs on God here on earth and in "time", especially when God turned his back on his Son when he was on the cross because of US. How can they complain when God turns his back on them in eternity and they find themselves in Hell and the lake of fire?

[Jon-Marc]

If there is no fear of punishment for rejecting Christ, what would turn people to Him? It wasn't His love that turned me to Him since I have never believed in love thanks to an abusive dad. I turned to Him out of fear of hell, and I KNOW that I'm saved and have eternal life through Him. Had it not been for my fear of hell, I would have gone on in my miserable life--ignorant of the consequences of not knowing the Saviour.