Gentiles in the Millennium ??/

[dan p]

Hi Dan P

Are you saying that the end is not the end of the present world ie after the Millenial reign of Christ but the end of the day of Grace?

Is the Gospel of the Kingdom not to be preached during the earthly reign of the King of Kings?

If not who will populate the New earth after the present earth has been destroyed by fire?

Hi Bloodbrought , if you look up the Greek for worlds , you will see that it is talking about the end of the Age and NOT the end of the world as we know it .
The Dispensation of the Grace of God end with the Departure of the Body of Christ ( the rapture so called ) 2 Thess 2:1-3 , 1 Cor 15:51-57 , 1 Thess 4:13-18 , just to mention a couple .

Then begins the 7 year Tribulation .

After , begins the Millenninal Kingdom , and Gentiles will be saved according to Rom 11:18-25 .

After , that Eph 1:10 .

[Jay Dub]

There are many of things concerning the second coming, I am unsure of.

How are Gentiles saved in the Millennium ????

The question I think is, are there gentiles after the second coming?
Jesus deals with the wicked, so all that is left are believers. neither Jew nor Gentile male nor female, we are all one

[ProphecyKid]

So if they are gentiles on earth here during the millennium then who is Jesus going to slay when he comes the second time? The lost won't receive a reward at the second coming?
I know that those who were dead and not saved would remain dead according to Rev 20:5. So those who are alive and would have sided with the beast, what becomes of them? Are they they ones who go through the millennium? If so wouldn't that contradict scripture?

[Onesiphorus]

Jay Dub ,May I ask you ,why you think there are no gentiles during the millennium ,you are confusing the mellennium with the second coming ,scripturally ,the second coming by Christ to Earth follows the millennium and this is the Great white throne judgement time ,but as I say this follows the millennium

This is where it is critical whether or not you believe in "the rapture of the Church the body of Christ ", because if you do not and deny the prophetic future of the 12 tribes of Israel ,then the last days as in scripture make absolutely no sense ,without replacement theology, and even then there is much that contradicts this belief

You take out the Church the body of Christ prior to the tribulation which is the fore runner of the millennium then the bricks fit into place ,and you can follow the steps right up to the end of Revelation ,keep in the Church the body of Christ saved by Grace through faith alone where there is no Jew or gentile in the eyes of God ,then you cannot line up that belief with scripture

[ProphecyKid]

Jay Dub ,May I ask you ,why you think there are no gentiles during the millennium ,you are confusing the mellennium with the second coming ,scripturally ,the second coming by Christ to Earth follows the millennium and this is the Great white throne judgement time ,but as I say this follows the millennium

This is where it is critical whether or not you believe in "the rapture of the Church the body of Christ ", because if you do not and deny the prophetic future of the 12 tribes of Israel ,then the last days as in scripture make absolutely no sense ,without replacement theology, and even then there is much that contradicts this belief

You take out the Church the body of Christ prior to the tribulation which is the fore runner of the millennium then the bricks fit into place ,and you can follow the steps right up to the end of Revelation ,keep in the Church the body of Christ saved by Grace through faith alone where there is no Jew or gentile in the eyes of God ,then you cannot line up that belief with scripture

I know Revelation isn't totally chronological but doesn't Revelation 20 follow 19? The first resurrection happens before the 1000 years and the 2nd resurrection happens after. Do you believe that?

[Onesiphorus]

that is what scripture says ,what exactly are you referring to and what in your belief is involved in the first resurrection and to whom does it refer to ?,this way we can walk it together step by step ,but before that ,do you accept the rapture and the tribulation has been and gone ?

[ProphecyKid]

that is what scripture says ,what exactly are you referring to and what in your belief is involved in the first resurrection and to whom does it refer to ?,this way we can walk it together step by step ,but before that ,do you accept the rapture and the tribulation has been and gone ?

I believe that the first resurrection occurs before the 1000 years begins. I do not believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. I see the first resurrection the same as the resurrection spoken of in 1 Cor 15 and 1 Thess 4. The tribulation of Matthew 24 is past but there is another to come.

[Onesiphorus]

WE immediately hit an impasse because as I said earlier ,we are now trying to fit the church the body of christ where therr is neither Jew nor gentile into a time when there is obviously jews and gentiles ,with direct references to the twelve tribes of Israel in the prophecies ..only by replacing the Jews with either the church or gentiles can you fit that situation into the future prophetic programme

[ProphecyKid]

WE immediately hit an impasse because as I said earlier ,we are now trying to fit the church the body of christ where therr is neither Jew nor gentile into a time when there is obviously jews and gentiles ,with direct references to the twelve tribes of Israel in the prophecies ..only by replacing the Jews with either the church or gentiles can you fit that situation into the future prophetic programme

Where is the time that there is obviously Jews and gentiles?

[Onesiphorus]

From the 70th week of Daniel to the end of revelation ,the tribulations proper title is the time of Jacobs trouble ,Jacob/Israel the foundation of the Israelites ,you show me where gentiles are included in this prophecy