Isaiah's Wake Up Call To Christians Today

[Pariah]

Isaiah 52: 1Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. 2Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

A call to the elect to put on the Lord Jesus Christ and to seperate from those wayward believers that have made their circumcision "uncircumcision" by seeking righteousness by the deeds of the law and to withdraw from those wayward believers that have defiled their temple by seeking another spirit to receive and thus becoming unclean.

Verse tow testify that by no longer seeking another spirit to receive, those wayward believers will no longer be on the ground and thus be ready to sit down as those that have ceased to be identified with the law have loosed themselves from the bands of their necks; hence their bondages. So those that have gone astray can be found ready when they cease fro their waywardness so that they will be found wearing their wedding garments.

Those that are still finding themselves on teh ground and with bands on their necks are not awake yet, and the call to seperate from them is urgent.

How believers being identified with the works of the law have made their circumcision "uncircumcision": Click on and read Romans 2:23-29

Philippians 3: 3For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

By having no confidence in teh flesh whereby we can boast by identifying ourselves with the deeds of the law, we truly worship God in the spirit and rejoice in Jesus Christ where it is not being done in vain.

As Philippians 3:3 states to worship God "in the spirit" and not "out of the Spirit" whereby many wayward believers are seeking another spirit to receive even when they call that "spirit" the Holy Spirit, one can hardly have a good report of his or her faith if God is not in them all the time.

It is important to note how a believer today can make himself or herself unclean by looking to God's words on teh results of dabbling in the occults.

Leviticus 19: 31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 20: 26And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine. 27A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

Isaiah 51: 17Awake, awake, stand up, O Jerusalem, which hast drunk at the hand of the LORD the cup of his fury; thou hast drunken the dregs of the cup of trembling, and wrung them out. 18There is none to guide her among all the sons whom she hath brought forth; neither is there any that taketh her by the hand of all the sons that she hath brought up. 19These two things are come unto thee; who shall be sorry for thee? desolation, and destruction, and the famine, and the sword: by whom shall I comfort thee? 20Thy sons have fainted, they lie at the head of all the streets, as a wild bull in a net: they are full of the fury of the LORD, the rebuke of thy God. 21Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but not with wine: 22Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: 23But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over.

Sounds familiar? The descriptions in Isaiah 51:20-23 fits most of these supernatural encounters today labelled as "slain in the spirit" or as "being drunk in the spirit". These be the results of those calling on the name of the Holy Spirit, but as God called them out to Himself in the Old Testament, so does He now.

Isaiah 52:1Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. 2Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.....

.....5Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed. 6Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I. 7How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!......

..... 10The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God. 11Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. 12For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your reward.

May God help you to see the necessity for calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and not the name of the Holy Spirit from the scriptures above. May God help you to see why wayward believers must wake up by narrowing the way back to the straight gate: Luke 13:24-30 John 10:1 John 10:7-9

So the faithful believers are called to depart as in to withdraw from the wayward believers that heed not the corrections in regards to the defense of the faith from that which is a rudiment found already in the world before Christ came in order to be clean again from those that remain to be unclean.

As judgment is coming, the believers need not fear as God will take them out from bearing that judgment. Isaiah 52:1-2 speaks of putting on thy beautiful garments as in putting on thy strength - as the Lord is our strength. And when believers put on the Lord Jesus Christ, it is His righteousness and His faithfulness that shall see them Home as they are ready and adorned for the Marriage Supper of the Bridegroom and the Bride in being one with God again where we shall dwell in the House of the Lord forever as a vessel unto honour.

Truly, it will be a blessed day in seeing the works of the Lord in us all.

Those that refuse correction and get left behind:

...click on & read Isaiah 54:1-17

[Onesiphorus]

Dear Pariah , there is a section of Isaiah where a particular doctrine today is not only ignored but in fact the complete opposite is being taught .

the scriptures tell us in 2Timothy 2:15-26 ,and that is the message of separation

v.16 says .....shun profane and vain babblings ,for they will increase unto more ungodliness
v.17 ...He names names which does away with the lie that those who are apostate should not be named

v.19..Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure ,having this seal . The Lord knoweth them that are his ,and , let every one that nameth the name of Christ "depart from iniquity"

v.23...But foolish and unlearned questions avoid

Move now to 2Timothy 3:1-17

The word of God tells us to separate from these and have nothing to do with them ,..In 2John 7-11...we are warned
2John1:9 whosoever transgresseth,and abideth not in the "doctrine of Christ"hath not God

v.10 .receive him not into your house neither bid him God speed

v 11..For he that biddeth him God speed is "partaker of his evil deeds "


So a warning to all who believe in ecumenicalism ,read the Word of God and see what God tells us what we should be doing. We should be separating from the apostate religions and cults and not as the new evangelicals and liberalist and modern apostates want saints to do and that is have everything to do with those who "abideth not in the doctrine of Christ" ,and this is another reason for the docrinal changes in modern bible versions ,because modern versions and texts better defend their heresy

[Lily]

I think the name says it all. Isaiah means " salvation of the Lord " and he was certainly a man who had God's light and he wasn't afraid to let it shine.

Loved Isaiah during my studies.
I took it as a message of hope and comfort. A message that said that God kept his promise concerning the flood Genesis 9:11-17 and that we can depend on his promise of his love, his covenant and his mercy.

[Pariah]

Dear Pariah , there is a section of Isaiah where a particular doctrine today is not only ignored but in fact the complete opposite is being taught .

the scriptures tell us in 2Timothy 2:15-26 ,and that is the message of separation

v.16 says .....shun profane and vain babblings ,for they will increase unto more ungodliness

Thanks for expounding on that rudiment being practised in a different way. As many seek another spirit to receive in order to get this particular gift of tongue, no one is discerning the result of that gift as being gibberish that comes with no interpretation.

The problem arises when those that claim they did receive the gift of tongues that comes with interpretation by that same rudiment are not truly testing the spirits nor the tongues received.

In all such calling forth of the Holy Spirit for this to occur, it has been found that those churches that believed they had received that Biblical gift of tongues that comes with interpretation had hired linguists to record the event and translate them only to find that it was all gibberish and yet the interpretors were lying was left unsaid.

Is it that hard to fathom as many will attest to fakers in tongues in just trying to fit in that there would be fakers in interpretations of those tongues?

But yet the phenomenon is real to tongue speakers and that is why some are honest in acknowledging the lack of interpretation and thus wanting to believe it to be from God instead of discerning it, they seek to reason it inbetween the lines of the scriptures or to apply verses to mean unknown tongue as if it was not to come with interpretation when that same unknown tongue referred to in 1 Corinthians 14:2 is the same unknown tongue mentioned throughout that chapter as a tongue of another language that is to come with interpretation in 1 Corinthians 14.

The conveniency of overlooking that verse you had mentioned just to have their prayer language time is neglecting the fact that such practises was being done by those with familiar spirits and if God was to call any out of the occults, He would not bury a gift of tongues without following it up with the interpretation of those tongues... les God be seen as a hypocrit after Jesus condemned the servant for burying that talent... and we know that God is not a hypocrit and as Jesus taught, so will He do.

Then you have those that were not seeking the "Spirit" when this phenomenon occurred. The irony is that they were already believers and thus confusion sets them on the path to understand the event instead of discerning it. 1 John 4:1-7 instructed and warned all believers to not believe every spirit, but test them as such events have been known to occur as it was already in the world: 1 John 4:3 by which Isaiah has testified of. For this purported claim of being the Holy Ghost as the Spirit of Truth, then there should be no error in relating to the spirit of error. 1 John 4:5-6 And yet, because of that event, many are descibing it to mean that was when they were saved, thus changing their testimony to vainglorying in that phenomenon, thus implying other believers that maybe they haven't received the Holy Spirit yet or that they need this "another baptism of the Holy Spirit that comes with evidence of tongues" just to know that they are saved, His, or complete. The irony is that the one more baptism of the Holy Spirit keeps happening to some of the same believer afterwards and so naturally, they just keep trying to explain it away: one wrote a book that there are three baptisms of the Holy Spirit... another said to me he believed there was five: and yet scriptures plainly states there is only one Ephesians 4:4-6 1 Corinthians 12:13 as that promised is received by faith in Jesus Christ.. Ephesians 1:12-15 Galatians 3:14 Galatians 3:26 not by sight Hebrews 11:1 Hebrews 11:6.

Then you have those that would declare the event as calling them into the ministry as Joyce Meyers have testified. Same event... whereas others would change their testimony as to that was when they were saved: a few would call it an anointing into the ministry.

v.17 ...He names names which does away with the lie that those who are apostate should not be named

Joyce Meyers has been named. I'm sure there are many others.

Move now to 2Timothy 3:1-17

The word of God tells us to separate from these and have nothing to do with them ,..In 2John 7-11...we are warned
2John1:9 whosoever transgresseth,and abideth not in the "doctrine of Christ"hath not God

v.10 .receive him not into your house neither bid him God speed

v 11..For he that biddeth him God speed is "partaker of his evil deeds "

Most believers that have gone astray would bless those that are disagreeing with them, however, by His grace, I have avoided practising casual blessings.

So a warning to all who believe in ecumenicalism ,read the Word of God and see what God tells us what we should be doing. We should be separating from the apostate religions and cults and not as the new evangelicals and liberalist and modern apostates want saints to do and that is have everything to do with those who "abideth not in the doctrine of Christ" ,and this is another reason for the docrinal changes in modern bible versions ,because modern versions and texts better defend their heresy

Westcott had father that was involved in the Ghostly Guild or some reference to a society that investigates the paranormal. Is it any wonder how evil communication corrupts good habits in that some influence came Westcott way when he translated Romans 8:26-27 to place the emphasis of the intercession to be done directly by the Holy Spirit in the NIV instead of indirectly as explained in the King James Bible as the Holy Spirit is the means by which Jesus Christ the only Mediator between God and man makes that intercession as being before that throne of grace alone.

So overall, the reproof is the same: Jesus Christ is the name to call on as it is the name of Jesus Christ which is above every other name as it is the name of Jesus Christ the real indwelling Holy Spirit seek to glorify and it is the name of Jesus Christ we shall praise in worship. Philippians 2:5-11

But thanks to that ecumenical drive of the Nicene Council, the RCC managed to hood winked Protestants in regards to broadening the way given to approach God the Father in worship through the Son by including the Holy Spirit to be worshipped and honoured singularly as well. Then unscriptural hymnals set the believers up into addressing the Holy Spirit in songs and worship and glory that no one will think twice when that little leaven leavens into a whole lump when it produces such movement of the "spirit" that no one is able to discern because they have deviated in ignorance from the commandment of His invitation in John 14:6.

Believers need to wake up and put on the Lord Jesus Christ: the Armour of God in dealing with those extras that are plainly contradicting the simplicity of the Gospel by denying the rest we are to have when we came to and believed in Jesus Christ for our salvation. Jeremiah 50:6-7 As it is, all focus on the "Spirit" has produced a hunger and thirst for more of God, ignoring the promise given by Jesus for solely coming to Him only in John 6:35.

Truly... many believers need to wake up if they wish to be found ready and abiding in Him when He appears.

[Steveg]

Sounds familiar? The descriptions in Isaiah 51:20-23 fits most of these supernatural encounters today labelled as "slain in the spirit" or as "being drunk in the spirit".

Just your opinion.

These be the results of those calling on the name of the Holy Spirit, but as God called them out to Himself in the Old Testament, so does He now.

It doesn't follow at all. You are claiming a link that is not there.

[Steveg]

But thanks to that ecumenical drive of the Nicene Council, the RCC managed to hood winked Protestants in regards to broadening the way given to approach God the Father in worship through the Son by including the Holy Spirit to be worshipped and honoured singularly as well.

This is gibberish. There was only one Church at the time of Council of Nicea. How could there be an ecumenical drive?

Council of Nicea 325 AD. Protestant reformation started say 1517. That's 1,192 years later. How can you say The Council of Nicea hoodwinked the Protestants?

[Pariah]

This is gibberish. There was only one Church at the time of Council of Nicea. How could there be an ecumenical drive?

Council of Nicea 325 AD. Protestant reformation started say 1517. That's 1,192 years later. How can you say The Council of Nicea hoodwinked the Protestants?

I am referring to the eventual blind acceptance of the Nicene Creed later on by the Protestant, but to return the question back to you: How can there be an ecumeinical drive? Quoted below the last paragraph from this link:

Nicene Creed

The Nicene Creed was first adopted at the first Ecumenical Council in 325 A.D., which was ... the First Council of Nicaea. At that time, the text ended after the words "We believe in the Holy Spirit." The second Ecumenical Council in 381 A.D. added the remainder of the text except for the words "and the son"; this is the version still used by Eastern Orthodox and Greek Catholic churches today. The third Ecumenical Council reaffirmed the 381 version, and stated that no further changes could be made to it, nor could other creeds be adopted. The phrase "and the son" (filioque in Latin) was first used in Toledo, Spain in 587, and was acknowledged as early as 447 at Rome by Pope Leo I without the consultation or agreement of the other four patriarchs of the Church at that time. The practice spread then to France where it was repudiated at the Gentilly Council in 767.

Written during the 4th century AD in an attempt to unify the Christian church under emperor Constantine.

If that answer is not acceptable, then why is it that each of those council is labelled as ecumenical?

It is the fault of the Protestant churches for carrying on traditions and creeds over from the RCC, but the hoodwinking for the sake of ecumenicalism is still on the RCC. For the Protestant churches to partake of those creeds and traditions, they have submitted to the spirit of ecumenicalism. If the Protestant churches wishes to stand apart from the RCC, they need to drop such traditions as referring to communion, marriage, and infant baptism as a sacrament and drop all the creeds. They do not need them nor those words when they can adequately express their faith by His grace and have communion without them.

[Pariah]

Originally Posted by Pariah
Sounds familiar? The descriptions in Isaiah 51:20-23 fits most of these supernatural encounters today labelled as "slain in the spirit" or as "being drunk in the spirit".

Just your opinion.

Originally Posted by Pariah
These be the results of those calling on the name of the Holy Spirit, but as God called them out to Himself in the Old Testament, so does He now.

It doesn't follow at all. You are claiming a link that is not there.

John 14:6

[Pariah]

Loved Isaiah during my studies.

How indepth was your study? Did it cover what God was referring to in those passages when they were not calling on His name? Was it in relation to Ba'al?

Mayhap any light you may shed on this deviant religious practises at that time may expose the same rudiment producing those results then as they are being produced now.

Course, I am fully aware that only God can cause the increase in peradventure giving them knowledge unto repentance so that they may recover themselves from the snare of the devil, but as I see this plainly, others continues to think that God would mimick things in the world where if He called those out of the occults to His Son, no one would be able to tell the difference in their lives as being seperate from the world when they continue the practise of the same rudiment found in the world.

Makes me wonder if those same waywarde believers would so readily to accept this when a medium decides to "christianize" their practises by calling on the Holy Spirit? Would believers be so gullible to heed the advertisements to contact the Holy Spirit by way of the medium? They just might if they could not contact "the Holy Spirit" the way others have in the church. What would be the difference? What would be the reproff that it would not be seen as hypocritical?

"Yeah but we believe in Jesus Christ so you should not go to a medium."

But if they call on the name of the Holy Spirit as they do.....

"Yeah but we do so by way of Jesus Christ".

Then go to Jesus Christ and not by way of the Holy Spirit.

[Steveg]

I am referring to the eventual blind acceptance of the Nicene Creed later on by the Protestant, but to return the question back to you: How can there be an ecumeinical drive? Quoted below the last paragraph from this link:

Nicene Creed



Written during the 4th century AD in an attempt to unify the Christian church under emperor Constantine.

If that answer is not acceptable, then why is it that each of those council is labelled as ecumenical?

It is the fault of the Protestant churches for carrying on traditions and creeds over from the RCC, but the hoodwinking for the sake of ecumenicalism is still on the RCC. For the Protestant churches to partake of those creeds and traditions, they have submitted to the spirit of ecumenicalism. If the Protestant churches wishes to stand apart from the RCC, they need to drop such traditions as referring to communion, marriage, and infant baptism as a sacrament and drop all the creeds. They do not need them nor those words when they can adequately express their faith by His grace and have communion without them.

Ecumenical just means the whole Church. Ecumenical Councils are gatherings of (the bishops of) the whole Church.

From the Catholic Encyclopaedia:

1. Ecumenical Councils are those to which the bishops, and others entitled to vote, are convoked from the whole world (oikoumene) under the presidency of the pope or his legates, and the decrees of which, having received papal confirmation, bind all Christians. A council, Ecumenical in its convocation, may fail to secure the approbation of the whole Church or of the pope, and thus not rank in authority with Ecumenical councils. Such was the case with the Robber Synod of 449 (Latrocinium Ephesinum), the Synod of Pisa in 1409, and in part with the Councils of Constance and Basle.
2. The second rank is held by the general synods of the East or of the West, composed of but one-half of the episcopate. The Synod Of Constantinople (381) was originally only an Eastern general synod, at which were present the four patriarchs of the East (viz. of Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem), with many metropolitans and bishops. It ranks as Ecumenical because its decrees were ultimately received in the West also.
3. Patriarchal, national, and primatial councils represent a whole patriarchate, a whole nation, or the several provinces subject to a primate. Of such councils we have frequent examples in Latin Africa, where the metropolitan and ordinary bishops used to meet under the Primate of Carthage, in Spain, under the Primate of Toledo, and in earlier times in Syria, under the Metropolitan — later Patriarch — of Antioch.
4. Provincial councils bring together the suffragan bishops of the metropolitan of an ecclesiastical province and other dignitaries entitled to participate.
5. Diocesan synods consist of the clergy of the diocese and are presided over by the bishop or the vicar-general.
6. A peculiar kind of council used to be held at Constantinople, it consisted of bishops from any part of the world who happened to be at the time in that imperial city. Hence the name synodoi enoemousai "visitors' synods".
7. Lastly there have been mixed synods, in which both civil and ecclesiastical dignitaries met to settle secular as well as ecclesiastical matters. They were frequent at the beginning of the Middle Ages in France, Germany, Spain, and Italy. In England even abbesses were occasionally present at such mixed councils. Sometimes, not always, the clergy and laity voted in separate chambers.

The main purpose of the Council of Nicea in 325 was to settle the ongoing dispute concerning Arianism. The Church was united in ecclesial terms (there were not two Churches) but in dispute over this particular doctrine. After the council there was still just one Church.