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    Quote Originally Posted by onesiphorus View Post
    Your statement on rejecting the fact that Israel or rather the 12 tribes of Jacob are The chosen people of God really is an irrelevance , as that is not what the scriptures say
    It isn't what I have said either. I have never said anything to indicate that I believe these 12 tribes are not God's chosen people.

    we as Christians have tried for 2000tears to make the bible fit our prejudices and false doctrines and that is why there is so much confusion in Christendom ..
    So you deny the plain words of the Bible when it says that the Israelites would become as numerous as the stars in the sky and become multiple nations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodbought View Post
    Can I ask that we all remember that the promise to Abraham was not the promise to Israel. Abraham is the father of many nations which includes Israel but many nations are descended from Abraham which have nothing to do with Israel
    God made the same promise to Jacob/Israel in Genesis 35:10-11 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;

    The Bible plainly says that the Israelites would become multiple nations.

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    Have you actually read my" reply 19 "of 7.47 this morning , because you have just continued with the same point and verse, i dont think you are interested in what the scriptures say , there is one more verse which states that ALL the Nations of the earth will do battle against Israel , so if ALL THE NATIONS do then how can any of the NATIONS be Gods People , if anyone is denying the scriptures it is not me , as I have given sufficient verses for you to move on from your singular point
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    Quote Originally Posted by flaja View Post
    God made the same promise to Jacob/Israel in Genesis 35:10-11 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;

    The Bible plainly says that the Israelites would become multiple nations.
    Abraham was the father of many nations which includes all the arabic nations.

    Jacob was promised that "A nation and a company (or an assembly called) of nations shall be from thee. In Jesus Christ ( Who is called the Gatherer of Nations Isaiah 66 18 "And I, because of their actions and their imaginations, am about to come and gather all nations and tongues, and they will come and see my glory. all the nations of the earth shall be gathered together by Jesus Christ who came through the line of Jacob. Also people from all nations shall be saved through Jesus Christ. ie The Church.

    God does not want his people linked to oather nations in a physical sense. In the old testament he went to great lengths to rescue them from among other nations. He wants his chosen nation to be pure and seperate.
    If we disagree , at least one of us is wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodbought View Post
    Abraham was the father of many nations which includes all the arabic nations.
    And Sarah was promised to become the mother of nations (Genesis 17:16). Sarah’s only child was Isaac so Sarah was not the mother of the Arabs and all of her nations had to come through Isaac. Isaac had only 2 children, Esau and Jacob/Israel, so the nations that Sarah was the mother of had to come from Esau and Jacob/Israel.

    Jacob was promised that "A nation and a company (or an assembly called) of nations shall be from thee.
    And Jacob/Israel passed this promise on to his grandsons through Joseph while the creation and existence of a Jewish nation is a well-documented fact of history. Thus, at the very least, the sons of Jacob/Israel became 1 Jewish nation, 1 Gentile nation and a company of other Gentile nations (bringing the total number of Israelite nations up to at least 4).

    In the old testament he went to great lengths to rescue them from among other nations. He wants his chosen nation to be pure and seperate.
    On the contrary, God used other nations repeatedly to judge and punish Israel and Judah. He clearly warned (Amos 9:9) that He would sift the House of Israel among all nations. The only country on earth, in all of human history, that has come even remotely close to having people who were sifted among all nations is the United States.

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    It sounds like you people are bored and have nothing to do, but Flaja MR Bush believes in the Replacement theory I hope you know what your leader thinks?

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