Pray For Jag, Kriss, & Denver Of Another Forum

[Pariah]

Hi JIP & gibby,

Please pray for Jag as he is judging as in condemning anyone that teaches a false doctrine not found in the Bible as an anti-christ and not a brother at all.

Please pray that the Lord shall restore him as a powerful witness for the truth in loving others and not condemning others as not brothers for being led astray. Please pray that kriss and Denver do not follow suit, but correct Jag in Christ's love.

By the grace of God, I have corrected him in Christ's love in the "Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary..." thread in that forum, but it is on the Lord to cause the increase as I am nothing. I have stated that I would withdraw from the forum to admonish him as a brother if he did not repent.

Please pray that the Lord shall open their eyes ( Jag, kriss, Unorthodox Christian, & Denver) to the false teachings of the "serpent seed" also. They may not believe in the pre-tribulation rapture, but I have seen how this false teaching can cause someone to go astray as it leans on the book of Enoch to give it credence, and this book of Enoch was "one" of the reasons why the member "Chronicles" has gone astray as posted in their forum, so please pray for the Lord to restore him to the faith in Christ Jesus also as well as correcting Jag, kriss, Unorthodox Christian, & Denver from teaching a doctrine of the serpent seed that is irrelevant to the Gospel in Jesus Christ but may be detrimental to someone's walk of faith.

I had several dreams regarding that forum which shall be left unnamed, and do have concern for these brothers and sister of mine there for which I felt it was necessary to post their nicknames online.

One dream I woke up with my bed turned another way in my bedroom as I noticed my niece was in my bed, but laying the other way and not really next to me, seperated by the sheets. I looked and saw in my bedroom that there were two other beds available for her to be in. I was puzzled and annoyed at what would appear to be a compromising situation.

Then the dream changed as my bed turned to face another way.. the usual way in my bedroom as I looked up to notice three objects floating around the spinning fan in the room. One was a plastic nest filled with eggs as if looking to drop them on someone which I identified that later to another christian forum which shall be nameless to avoid disparagement towards that forum, but one of the other object was a wolf's as it then saw me and came down to attack me as its jaws sought my throat.

It was from that point on I was confronted with this serpent seed doctrine as another dream came where I was in this fortified place and a wolf came into through the gate. One of the two younger brothers stabbed it with a small dagger or knife and as I took hold of something.. which was like a tree saw as I used that blade for a swipe under its side near and behind its front leg, it finally turned and left through the ajar gate. When the Lord had shown me hat site exposing the serpent seed, and I posted it here, you guys saw the falsehood of it right away and I thanked the Lord for you receiving that awareness right away.

It was later that I made the connection that the fortified place was this forum as gibby and JIP were the two younger brothers. Just as three beds were in my bedroom and yet my niece was in my bed to suggest the topic of incest as the forum in question with the wolf representing the false doctrine of the serpent seed, "the topic" pertaining towards that Genesis 20 was needed to debunk the false charge that there was no such thing as incest in the beginning because of what was decreed by God in Leviticus 18. Thus Adam and Eve were the only two as well as Noah and His family were the only souls on the ark for which God commanded them to be fruitful and multiply because Abraham married his sister, the daughter of his father, but not of his mother... which was before Leviticus 18. God does not change but conditions regarding man does as animals and man were vegetarian before the Flood, but not afterwards as God decreed at both those times as conditions changed. So when the nation Israel came out of Egypt as a people, a multitude, a nation, the decree was now necessary in Leviticus chapter 6 thru 18 because there were enough people in Israel to no longer marry within the family.

Anyway, I am considering leaving that egg throwing forum, as I am placing myself to leave this other one to admonish the brother, Jag, if necessary. Being how the wolf was used as repesentative of the false doctrine, I feel that I shall need more witnesses in prayer for the Lord to deliver Jag and any other that may be gripped within its jaws to condemn a wayward believer as an anti-christ.

I really believe the serpent seed teaching is responsible for giving that perspective or view or the "eye" of a "just cause" to look for "kennites" without saying so and judge wayward believers that teach false doctrines not found in the Bible as being of the devil... since kennites were identified as "descendents of Cain" and thus when Jesus addressed the Pharisees and Sadduccees as of the Jews but not Jews and thus of the devil for him being a liar, thus the leap was made that the ones that crucified Jesus were kennites, hence the descendents of Cain, ... I can see why Jag made this leap without saying so from the basis of that false teaching of the serpent seed, that those that teach false doctrines not found in the Bible were of the anti-christ thus the wolf has my brother, Jag, in condemning wayward believers as the anti-christ for teaching doctrines not found in the Bible.

Truly believe I need to share this for a prayer need as that symbol of the wolf represents death in the occult world ( I met a former occult person turned christian whom told me that when he and I were in the area of a supernatural manifestation... which I did not see, but witnessed a peeved resident looking for whomever stole his pillow and it was found floating in the air in his room. Nedless to say, he chnaged room, but this believer stated seeing a wolf in that room) as the scriptures declares that hating a brother is not abiding in the Lord... thus death is coming as in the wrath of God.. for by the standard one judges, so shall they be judged... and it is not looking good for Jag... by the dream, nor by the scriptures.

So out of love for my brother, Jag, and concern for kriss, Unorthodox Christian, and Denver that they do not follow suit, will gibby, and JIP and any others pray for Jag's deliverance as well as keeping the others from taking that dangerous path? I really think I need two or three to agree to this for the Lord to deliver Jag and any other necessary intervention like deliverance from the false teaching of the "serpent seed".

Matthew 18: 18Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

As for them not believing in the "pre-tribulation harvest", it is not contingent for them to be raptured, but being ready and abiding in Him is. They will just be surprised if and when they are found abiding in Him. So let us pray for them, please. Amen.

And if it needs to be said, I do not think I am better than them because I am where I am by the grace of God. So let us seek their good in the Lord. Amen.

[Pariah]

Incidentally, I had believed also about fallen angels intermingling with the daughters of man as for the reason for the Flood, which was why the wolf came up to me and was about to claspe its jaws upon my throat. I just didn't believe anyone else survived the Flood nor were there any other races before the Flood.

I thank the Lord for showing me my error and reproving me in another dream after that in which angels cannot marry nor take wives because they cannot reproduce. God gave the command to multiply after their own kind for the animals as well as for man, but no decree was made for angels.. let alone fallen ones. Fallen angels cannot reproduce because God didn't say that they could... any more than angels can. When God spoke, it is done... only kinds reproduce after its own kind. Thus Jesus said of the resurrection that angels are not given in marriage and thus He has spoken... and thus it is true. So if they cannot take wives, then neither can they do so in their fallen state.

Anyway, I am where I am by the grace of God, so that is why I do not think of myself as better than anyone else. I am just grateful to the Lord. Thank you, Jesus! Amen!

[JIP]

Dear Pariah,
Although I did not understand everything that you wrote, I will firstly start to pray for the four brothers you love and care for, viz. Jag, Kriss, Unorthodox Christian & Denver.
About what you wrote and the dream, since i am unable to decipher a dream I will pray that you get the answers you seek from the Holy Spirit.
In Gen 20 which of the 14 dreamers mentioned are you implying?

Pariah I need to read, refer and think about this ok? It's a bit too deep waters for me. Why dont you invite your friends to this forum and we can discuss with them openly?

Anyway Be Blessed As Always.

[JIP]

Dear Heavenly Father, we know that You want us to know the truth, believe the truth, speak the truth and live accordance with the truth. We thank thee Father that it is the truth that will set us free. In many ways we have been deceived by Satan, the father of lies and sometimes we have deceived ourselves too.
Father we pray in the name of Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of His shed blood and resurrection, asking You to rebuke all deception seeded in the minds of Jag, Kriss, Unorthodox Christian & Denver that are deceiving them. We ask of the Holy Spirit to search their hearts and free them from the spirits which are deviating their faith in You and lead them in an everlasting way in You Lord. We also ask You Lord to search the heart of brother Pariah, know his anxious thoughts about these brothers and also lead him in your everlasting way. Please Father reveal to his mind what you have in store for him as he is committed in your ways.
In Jesus Holy name we pray.
Amen

[Pariah]

Hi JIP,

In Gen 20 which of the 14 dreamers mentioned are you implying?

I am not sure where you got 14 dreamers from, but I was referring to these verses below that answers the false charge that there was no incest before Leviticus 18 was decreed by God for the nation of Israel. Before Leviticus 18 decree from God, God gave the command to multiply to Adam and Eve.. and thus apply to their descedents which would be in the family. There were no other human male and female couple created.

Just as there were no other survivors from the Flood besides Noah and his family for which God addressed them specifically to multiply and replenish the earth.

Genesis 20: 11And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. 12And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.

Genesis 20 was just a reference to debunk that there was no incest before Leviticus 18, but just as God decree that man and animals were to be vegetarians before the flood, God decree that animals shall be for meat after the flood along with the herbs and fruits.

Anyway, God was using this reference to reach out to those that did not believe that there were just Adam and Eve nor just Noah and his family that survived the Flood. God gave the decree then because the conditions for man was different then before Leviticus 18 when Israel as a nation was coming out of Egypt for which the decree was finally given not to marry within the immediate family. So far... only saw two people voiced that towards me that I was using scriptural references rightly... one by post and another by PM. God has yet to cause the increase in Denver, kriss, Jag, and Unorthodox Christian, but as of this moment, I am concern for Jag by the way he is condemning, but hoping Denver, kriss, and Unorthodox Christian will not follow suit, but instead, reaffirm the correction towards Jag since he has seemingly resisting the correction given the first time in that thread.

Why dont you invite your friends to this forum and we can discuss with them openly?

I would rather place more confidence in the Lord reaching them for if they do not hear His Words, they will not hear ours. If Jag is in a spirit of condemning, I do not want him to be tempted by judging more, thus the devil getting a grip on his anger towards false doctrines or what he has perceived as false doctrines to calling those "wayward believers", the anti-christs.

Thanks for the prayers. I hope the Lord Jesus shall grant them wisdom in understanding His Words through the Holy Spirit in them sooner than it took me to be able to receive.

John 16: 13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

[gibby]

Pariah, I am familiar with that board. Denver allowed me to post my John study over there. We used to speak quite a bit when we first launched our boards. I don't see him online much over there anymore and have not spoken to him in a while. I will pray also that things will work out over there.

[JIP]

Ok understood.
Well about Gen 20 and 14 dreamers - the has recorded 14 dreamers
They are as follows:-
1. Abimelech (Gen 20:3,6)
2. Jacob (Gen 28:12; 31:10-110)
3. Laban (Gen 31:24)
4. Joseph (Gen 37:5-10)
5. The chief butler (40:9-15)
6. The chief backer (Gen 40:16-23)
7. Pharoah (Gen 41:1-32)
8. A Midianite (Judges 7:13-15)
9. Solomon (1Kings 3:5-15)
10. Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 2 and 4)
11. Daniel (Daniel 2 and 7)
12. Joseph ( Mathew 1:20; 2:13-22)
13. The wise men (Mathew 2:12)
14. Pilate's wife (Mathew 27:19)

[Pariah]

Hi gibby & JIP!

I saw your John thread, gibby! I figure you would want to know and pray for them.

Thanks for the prayers.

An update on Jag.

He says he does not hate those he call not his brother. He says he does love his enemies.

Good news! Yes? For a moment there, I thought he was on a mean critical eye.

However, I did address his wording since he admitted that Satan is the anti-christ and that he hates Satan, and thus by calling all those that preach false doctrine not found in the Bible as the anti-christ... well... I told him that it wasn't much of a leap for me to think that he hated his enemies.

Hopefully, the Lord shall correct his speech and his way of judging since he is going beyond judging false doctrines to judging people as anti-christ which is I would think the same as condemning people which he says he is not doing, but I'll just hope the Lord will steer him from saying things like that. I did show the verses in 2 Thessalonians 3:1-15 to not regards a wayward brother as an enemy, but still think of him as a brother, but I guess he did not care to call the one poster his brother at all. Which kind of gives me the idea that he was going beyond judging false doctrines... to judging people.

Still pray for him. It may be he is double-minded, and I am ignoring it by hoping for the best.

I don't think kriss, Unorthodox Christian, nor Denver is following suit, but I am wondering why they didn't correct him on his speech so pray for them still.

Thanks JIP for the references to the 14 dreamers! Now I know what you meant.

[JIP]

Ok Pariah so now you can cool it as we have surrendered them in prayer. Wait for the Lord to do His Will.
Be Blessed Always

[Pariah]

Hi JIP,

And I have read this after I posted to his reply and kriss's to me.

God be willing, I shall let go.