Multiculturalism is wrong.

[Lily]

Next February, if you remember when the 6 nations rugby starts, make a note of watching the Welsh line up before the match when the national anthem is sung, half of the WELSH players don't know it !

[Lily]

Going back to my last post where I made reference to Welsh pre school children being able to count to 10 in urdu before they are taught in their own language and Parents who complained were being accused of being racist, that reminded me of my Son's schooling.
He was taught in a private school ( he didn't go just because it was private, he was sent there because it was the best at the time in the area ). It was run by the Delasalle Brothers and the only thing I was so disappointed in was that Welsh wasn't on the ciriculum.
But going back to this multiculturalism, the headmaster, quite a few times was accused of being racist.
It was a school that was well regarded for it's exam results and my Son was in a class that was a bit like the united nations because it was a school where many Doctors/surgeons would place their children while on oversees placement in the UK and all races were welcomed with open arms.
It did actually make my Son more tolerant and respectful of others opinions.
Nevertheless, despite creed, colour or religious persuasion, the headmaster could never stress strongly enough that this was a Christian school and all children, ALL children in his school, would be taught Christian values and while all races were welcome they stressed they would not be teaching anything other than Christian values.
That included all children being expected to attend mass in the Cathedral every week and for all religious events such as 1st communion/confirmation ect ect. ( I don't mean a hindue, for example, child would be forced to convert, I mean they had to attend )
Several times, Parents of other religious persausions accepted those terms to gain their children entrance to the school but wouldn't adhere to those principals when they were in. Those Parents were asked only once to adhere to terms they accepted if they failed to bring those children to the above religious events and were given no 3rd chances. If they continued in that vein they were asked to put their children in a school that suited them better and oh boy, was there a near riot over it !

So, taking that example alone then no, I don't feel multiculturalism can work in the truest sense of the word no matter how hard you try and that is by no means a racist statement in my opinion.

[Lambsy]

Next February, if you remember when the 6 nations rugby starts, make a note of watching the Welsh line up before the match when the national anthem is sung, half of the WELSH players don't know it !

Well I don't care how good the player is, if he can't sing the anthem with all his power, then he certainly isn't going to play with all his power.

Look at the Kiwis, how much effort goes into their Haka.

[BeartheCross]

I too live in the United States.

First amendment is freedom of religion freedom of speech, Freedom of assembly and freedom of the press.

This is why so many people around the world have arrived to this nation. As they are able to express their freedom that does not mean there is no racism. . There is plenty of racism I am sure spoken or thought of in the Hearts of people..

I am white and I live in a Spanish neighborhood. I won’t pretend or try to fit in.

I’ll just be myself because most of them speak English also. . As Christians Love and Kindness is the Universal Language. . Let’s try to get along.

You can witness for Christ even still. But those who don't listen don’t waste your time arguing. As Jesus said if they do not listen take your Sandals and dust them off.

We are citizens of Heaven let us be Christian more than anything else.

If you could not speak the same language as another person and you offer them a gift they will understand. . Smile and be kind. Confusing perhaps but the intentions meant well.

[Wabco]

I have to disagree with the thread title stating that multiculturalism is wrong.

What is wrong with it?

I am european but mixed. I see no difference really. I am still not 100% British.
If I was a quarter african (not white south african) people passing me on the street would "see" that I was "mixed race". As it happens people can't see it. We are all mongrels!



So what? Mixing genes is good, it has been proved, and just think of all the curries and chinese food we would never taste if we where all static in our culture.

Lambsy, Oz is a mongrel nation, the aborginies where the only original australians so for you to say such a thing is illogical IMHO.

[DeaconDan]

There is no such thing as a multicultural society. Multiculturalism is an euphemism for imposing a liberalculture on traditional western culture. It is like Affirmative Action is an euphemism for imposing racism. (Evil hides behind euphemisms)

Every place has one culture, not multiple cultures. All cultures are equally wide, allowing only so much deviation from the central culture. (A subculture achieves a little more range by being small and obscure.)

If you have noticed, "multiculturalism" exhibits itself by telling you that you cannot do something.

[smellycat]

we sing God save the queen,but she doesn,t run the country .?times change.God save the used and abused better song.

[Lambsy]

Lambsy, Oz is a mongrel nation, the aborginies where the only original australians so for you to say such a thing is illogical IMHO.

You aren't understanding what I am talking about. Yes, Australia is a mongrel nation, but we have a definate unique culture.
But there are those that don't want to just influence Australian culture, they want to establish another competing culture in Australia.

Its all well and good having a Aborigine, Chinese, Irish, Japanese and many other cultures influence Australian culture, but it is not good to have these become competing cultures, as in multiculturalism.

Take for instance Islam. Islam is not just a religion, its an entire culture, political and legal system.
It does not act as just an influence on a national culture, it seeks to become the dominant culture. It sees itself as having a manifest destiny to rule the world, eventually.

France will be an Islamic in a few short decades. As Christian culture leaves Europe and is replaced by the new secularism, Islam will soon take over as the dominant culture.
The secularists thought that they could control Islam. They introduced Islam to compete with Christian culture, to dilute it to make it weaker. But this spiteful act of the secularists will be seen as a terrible miscalculation by future generations.
The truth is no one dies for secularism, so a powerful belief like Islam will soon dominate a secular society.

France deserves to lose all its cultural past, because its secularism promotes contraception, its secularism promotes anti christian bias.
Muslims still have very large families, christians and secularists are not having children, so its a game of last man standing. Eventually the culture that breeds wipes out the culture that doesn't, this is proven from any history you like.

So what? Mixing genes is good, it has been proved, and just think of all the curries and chinese food we would never taste if we where all static in our culture.

I'm not saying that a culture must remain static, I am saying that it must remain dynamic, influenced by all but competed with by none.
Cultures change naturally as other cultures influence them, but to delberately set up other distinct cultures inside a nation, and not promote a unified national culture, causes cultural wars.

Anyway different foods aren't cultures, food has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

Australians eat alot of Cornish Pastys, but its an influence of the past cultural smeld, not a sign of a dominant Cornish culture.

[Lambsy]

Double post.

[Steveg]

See I'd love to eat traditional Welsh food, why don't they have Welsh resturaunts.
If I went to China they would have plenty of Chinese resturants.

Many years ago we had a welsh farmhouse holiday with our children. The landlady cooked some wonderful meals under the slogan " A taste of Wales". It seems now to be called "Wales, the true taste"

Also see this Culture UK - what makes the Britsh so ... British! Welsh food - traditonal cooking, food and recipes from Wales