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    Hi Lambsy, interesting post
    But it must either be to early in the morning here or I'm totally daft because I'm not really grasping what you mean by Uniculturalism.
    Take for instance, I want to travel to Finland and experience Finish culture, but when I get there, I find Australian culture and every other culture ( A Cheo min of cultures ). How disappointed would I be.

    Muticulturalism, says your unique culture is defective and not enough, now your culture must be diluted by competing with other cultures.

    Would it be ok if the Welsh songs and traditions and sense of self died out to another culture, say Polish culture, dominated overtime, and Welsh identity died forever. Is being Welsh something to be proud of ? Or is it something to be ashamed of, so should we introduce many other cultures into the same place.
    Whats wrong with Welsh culture that it must be made to compete with every other culture, as a forced government policy of social engineering, ie Multiculturalism.

    How about those that have taken Wales to be their home, and in gratitude for the welcome, those people adopt the rich Welsh culture with pride. When in Rome, so to speak.

    The Welsh invented singing and coal mining, and also singing whilst coal mining, its not like there isn't plenty to be proud of mind.

    See cultures change overtime and evolve naturally as people immigrate or move away, but it remains a strong unified culture none the less. But today, governments and global agencies, are diliberately pushing multiple cultures in nations, to scuttle national unity, thus sovereignty.

    They push many cultures to push the idea of Global community to destroy national sovereignty, and Global Government is the goal.

    The biggest defence of national sovereignty is a unified national culture. If the national culture is divided, sovereignty becomes irrelevent and not worth fighting for, and global government is a formality to introduce after that.

    A divided culture, is easy to control.

    Multiculturalism, is a Globalist social engineering project, and not a good one.

    We now have a very large Somalie community. Well, it's become KNOWN as a Somalie community in this area of Cardiff because,, well, thats just where they all seem to live.
    Willthey form separate communities and maintain the same Islamic culture.

    See Islam is not just a religion, it is a culture, and political system in one.That is what people don't realise.

    See, many other religions can co-exist in Wales and still people share the same Welsh culture. But with Islam the religion and culture and political system are the all the same thing.

    That is why to be a Welshman in a hundred years time will mean that he doesn't sing, doesn't play football, and is definetely not a christian, and doesn't drink a pint. All these things will be banned in Wales.

    Notice none of this is about race, or religion, but about culture, and global politics.

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    Yes, I'm grasping what you mean now and I agree.
    Although in answer to this,,,


    Is being Welsh something to be proud of ?
    I've never really grasped the concept of people being proud of something they had no hand in. You know what I mean ? I just don't understand how someone can be proud of " just " being born somewhere because to my mind, just being born in a particular place isn't really an achievement in itself.
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    See cultures change overtime and evolve naturally as people immigrate or move away
    It's odd you know but when I read this, my mind immediately thought of how we here in Wales seem to make more of an effort on St Patricks day than St Davids day.
    So even though I see what you are saying and even though there are only descendants of the Irish potato famine influx coming into Wales, the Irish culture seems to be holding fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Yes, I'm grasping what you mean now and I agree.
    Although in answer to this,,,


    I've never really grasped the concept of people being proud of something they had no hand in. You know what I mean ? I just don't understand how someone can be proud of " just " being born somewhere because to my mind, just being born in a particular place isn't really an achievement in itself.
    Its about your cultural identity and values, not about being born in a particular place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    It's odd you know but when I read this, my mind immediately thought of how we here in Wales seem to make more of an effort on St Patricks day than St Davids day.
    So even though I see what you are saying and even though there are only descendants of the Irish potato famine influx coming into Wales, the Irish culture seems to be holding fast.
    Its still the same Christian culture, no matter which saint is being celebrated. Thats the beauty of it, there are compatable values.

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    Sadly we seem to be loosing a grip on it. Not even any working coal mines left
    Only thing to remind visitors to Cardiff these days that they are in Wales are our bilingual sign posts, otherwise if you just landed them in a spaceship and said " guess where you are ", I fear they would just think, " well, a city is a city is a city "
    Yet we can fly 45 minutes across the Irish sea to Dublin and there is no doubt you are in Ireland.
    It's made me realise how right you were in the title of this thread
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    You know Lambsy, here in Cardiff if I were to take you for a meal, I would have no trouble thinking about which Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Indian, Italian resturaunt to take you to because we are spoiled for choice but if you wanted to taste traditional Welsh Fayre like cawl, bara brith, lava bread, I would really have to think !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    Sadly we seem to be loosing a grip on it. Not even any working coal mines left
    Only thing to remind visitors to Cardiff these days that they are in Wales are our bilingual sign posts, otherwise if you just landed them in a spaceship and said " guess where you are ", I fear they would just think, " well, a city is a city is a city "
    Yet we can fly 45 minutes across the Irish sea to Dublin and there is no doubt you are in Ireland.
    It's made me realise how right you were in the title of this thread
    Well, now is the time for all Welsh women to have all there children and grandchildren taught welsh and welsh history and culture.

    Inculturate, inculturate, inculturate. Make a big deal about your culture, revive a good old Welsh cultural tradition, get the kids excited about their Christian Welsh culture.
    Have folk singing night, and all the women cook welsh food, get serious about the culture. Play the old Welsh sports, start Welsh nationalist political party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lily View Post
    You know Lambsy, here in Cardiff if I were to take you for a meal, I would have no trouble thinking about which Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Indian, Italian resturaunt to take you to because we are spoiled for choice but if you wanted to taste traditional Welsh Fayre like cawl, bara brith, lava bread, I would really have to think !
    See I'd love to eat traditional Welsh food, why don't they have Welsh resturaunts.
    If I went to China they would have plenty of Chinese resturants.

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    Oh I expect I would find one to take you to but my point being I would have to look in yellow pages to find a resturaunt that served Welsh fayre.
    If you wanted anyother fayre I could reel names and places off the top of my head. Of course, this just applies to Cardiff. If you were to go to other parts of Wales where the Welsh traditions and language have been held onto almost like they are sacred, it would be different. North Wales for example, you won't even hear English as a first language.


    Well, now is the time for all Welsh women to have all there children and grandchildren taught welsh and welsh history and culture.
    Oh yes, my Granddaughter is already counting to 20 in Welsh as well as she does in English curtesy of moi Not bad going for a 3yr old.
    Bet you would be amazed to know that here in Cardiff there are more pre school Welsh children who can count to 10 in urdu than in Welsh !
    Many Parents cmplained about it and were accused of being racist.
    You know, when she was a babe in arms, I was talking to my Daughter in law about carrying her in Welsh fashion and telling her how I would feed my Son with him wrapped up close to me with a traditional Welsh shawl.
    My WELSH born and bred Daughter in law said,,, " um, what's Welsh fashion ginge ? "
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