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    I think that scripture or Jesus should be sufficient. The reason why cults have Jesus plus something is because they feel Jesus alone isn't sufficient.

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    Dear Inquisitive ,I am unsure as to what point you are trying to make ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by inquisitive View Post
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    It is possible for some men to accurately record any event, that affects our Christian walk, without colouring it with our own brand of theology, because we have the bible as an example of such a time that they have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onesiphorus View Post
    Dear Inquisitive ,I am unsure as to what point you are trying to make ?
    I know exactly the point i was making, and i dont believe its that difficult to see, there is no other way to show it really....if someone uses the phrase any man, then that would include those who wrote scripture irrelevant to wether inspired by God or not, as it is still 'man' who penned the scriptures....so using the phrase any man, is the invalid phrase used in regards to saying:

    It is immpossible for any man to accurately record any event, that affects our Christian walk, without colouring it with our own brand of theology
    Because someone else used the phrase ANY MAN, then that could cast doubts on the validity of scripture itself, as MAN still wrote the bible, wether inspired by God or not, therefore come under the banner of 'ANY MAN'.

    If the point is still not got, then i think its purposefully being avoided.
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    Dear inquisitive
    When I wrote that, I was aware that, that question might come up. To which i quoted Scripture to show that it did not include Scripture. As Quoted, it was not man that thought it (Scripture) up, but God HIMSELF Who inspired it. As such, what is recorded in Scripture, is HIS Word and not mans. If this is not clear to you, I will really struggle to explain it more adequetly. So I really hope I have made myself clear to you, and my origional intention as well.
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    Dear inquisitive,do you believe the canon of scripture is the inspired word of God

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    Because someone else used the phrase ANY MAN, then that could cast doubts on the validity of scripture itself, as MAN still wrote the bible, wether inspired by God or not, therefore come under the banner of 'ANY MAN'.
    Man " penned " it, God wrote it.
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    sighs i aint playing your games no more on this board, someone used the phrase any man, this includes those that wrote the bible, therefore the possibility of casting doubt on the validity of scripture is quite clearly there, its either seen or not seen, the fact the possibility of it is there, should mean the phrase be avoided...wether i personally believe the scriptures to be the inspired word of God is completely irrelevant.

    But seen as owen himself has said in his reply

    When I wrote that, I was aware that, that question might come up
    Then really it isnt that much of a bad observance i have made. If people cant see where im coming from then that is fine, but lets not start playing the game of insulting my intelligence, because i am far from a fool.
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    Rach, Is this what is confusing you,,,

    So we get distortions in recorded "facts". The same is true for all denomonations of Christianity. It is immpossible for any man to accurately record any event, that affects our Christian walk, without colouring it with our own brand of theology.
    together with a question of, " If it is impossible for any man to accurately record any event ", then how can we reply on the men's account, of events recorded in Scripture ?

    Have I got that right ?
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    And really before people reply to me, dont bother, because i wont reply no more myself, i will just revert to reading, im more a reader here anyway makes no odds to me. You just need remember it isnt always a 'learned theologian' reading these posts, as such you need be careful how you word things, i was simply pointing out something which could very easily be misunderstood by someone who is not a 'learned theologian', which seems to be a prerequisite these days to even dip your toe on threads.
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