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    this is where all satans logic falls down.children are easily influenced,to target Children is wrong.

    children are people who don,t know this war is going on,and are influenced as a target.

    i would be very suprised if hollywood jews were actually jewish.for if they was jewish there material would be for Jesus,if not by name but by scripture.

    who is satan to them.?Christians.?

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    have a friend that knows some Messianic Jews.

    We share the same Old Testament. That is why we can get along and America was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic.


    then become Jewish.?

    America was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic.

    maybe jews who accepted Christ.?this bunch not only do they not accept Christ they are aggainst Christ.

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    God love them jews who crucify Christ.?


    are you for real.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconDan View Post
    El and Elah both mean God, singular. Elohim means gods, plural. The use of the word "elohim" itself implies two more more gods. Arguing that scripture means one God in unity and power sounds a bit polytheistic itself
    The word for "created" is in the singular, thus there is ONE GOD of three or more persons since God is in the plural. God is one being, but three persons and the scripture clearly teaches this. Nothing polytheistic about this. Genesis 1:1 uses the Hebrew word "Elohim" there ore there is more than one person involved inthe creation. If you're arguing that the bible teaches that God is 1 person, then you are in error.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smellycat View Post
    have a friend that knows some Messianic Jews.

    We share the same Old Testament. That is why we can get along and America was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic.


    then become Jewish.?

    America was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic.

    maybe jews who accepted Christ.?this bunch not only do they not accept Christ they are aggainst Christ.
    Cat,

    I have sat down and ate with Orthodox Jews and they invited me to meet their Rabbi. We may not agree but they are not totally against us. Some of them want to be friends and some of them want to find a way to be friends.

    Mark 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

    Chuck

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    i don,t doubt you.some is only some.some doesn,t mean all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Oh View Post
    The word for "created" is in the singular, thus there is ONE GOD of three or more persons since God is in the plural.
    There is no logical connection between "created" and "gods". If you said "the workers built the house", it would not mean that there was one man with multiple personalities who built the house.

    God is one being, but three persons and the scripture clearly teaches this. Nothing polytheistic about this.
    I did not say that scripture is polytheistic. I referred to your interpretation as polytheistic in tone. God is multiple persons in unity and power? Currently, there are about 40 Republicans in the US Senate who are one in unity and power. Does that mean there is really only one Republican in the Senate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconDan View Post
    There is no logical connection between "created" and "gods". If you said "the workers built the house", it would not mean that there was one man with multiple personalities who built the house.



    I did not say that scripture is polytheistic. I referred to your interpretation as polytheistic in tone. God is multiple persons in unity and power? Currently, there are about 40 Republicans in the US Senate who are one in unity and power. Does that mean there is really only one Republican in the Senate?
    I'm puzzled as to why you chose to ignore the verses I cited to prove that God is One in Unity and power. If you have any disagreements, then attempt to refute what the scripture states. When you state that what I wrote sounds polytheistic, then you're stating that the scripture sounds polytheistic because I am showing you using scripture to prove that God is both one in Unity and Power.

    1). God is One in Unity. "And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:" (John 17:22) We, as the body of believers are ONE in Unity. See 1 Cor. 12 where Paul states that, "there are many parts, but one body"
    2). God is One in power "I and my Father are one." (John 10:30)

    Let the scripture speak for itself.
    • Jesus is God (John 1:1; 8;58; 20:21; 2 Pet.1:1; Tit.2:13, etc.)
    • The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:4)
    • The Father is God
    • The Father and Jesus are not the same person, you don't refer to yourself as YOU nor do you pray to yourself. Nor do you consider YOURSELF another witness or testimony of another (Matt.11:25; John 8:17,18)

    You have more than One person, and each person is God. You can label this polytheistic, but this is what the BIBLE teaches. If you believe that God is one person, then you fall into the Modalistic belief which can easily be refuted with scripture. If you believe that only the Father is God, then you fall into either Arianism or other heresies which deny the deity of Jesus. I don't know where you stand since your posts are unclear and vague on your position. And once again, the word God in Genesis 1:1 is the Hebrew plural word "Elohim" which means more than one. I hope the next time around that I won't have to restate the prooftexts I provided. So I want to make this very clear with some questions I have for you.

    1). Do you accept the Deity of Jesus?
    2). Do you believe that GOD is 1 person?

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    if you seperate Christ from politics,who,s politics do you have.????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Oh View Post
    1). God is One in Unity. "And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:" (John 17:22) We, as the body of believers are ONE in Unity. See 1 Cor. 12 where Paul states that, "there are many parts, but one body"
    That is the argument of polytheistic "christian" cults. They argue that when Jesus says he and the Father are one, Jesus only means the same thing as when he says all believers are one in one body.

    1). Do you accept the Deity of Jesus?
    2). Do you believe that GOD is 1 person?
    Jesus and the Father are more than one in unity and power. They are the same in essence. The person of Jesus took on the flesh and the humble nature of the flesh.

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