every human invited to Christ

[smellycat]

Christ came and left an open invitation.it is up to you to accept the invite or reject the invite.

[Lily]

Very nicely put Cat

[smellycat]

thank you

[laterunner]

?? Who is th/4 most blessed.???

[weareisaac]

No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:44

[smellycat]

father and son are 1.
Christ also says i rebuke the ones i love.

[weareisaac]

Yes God disciplines his children, that is, those who are in Christ. Those who belong to him he disciplines.

[smellycat]

so your saying Christ hasn,t offered all humanity the chance of life.?

[weareisaac]

What i am saying is that humanity is in bonage to sin hence "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him" John 6:44

Humanity is willingly in bondage to sin thus "Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God" Romans 8:8

God is not obliged to offer rebells anything but what they deserve, namely, Hell.

[Chuckt]

What i am saying is that humanity is in bonage to sin hence "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him" John 6:44

Humanity is willingly in bondage to sin thus "Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God" Romans 8:8

God is not obliged to offer rebells anything but what they deserve, namely, Hell.

Is this just another calvinism/armenian debate?

Mark 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.


2 Peter 2:1 ¶ But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Did Jesus atone for the non-elect false prophets?


Luke 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

sygkyria G4795

1) accident, by chance

Or did Jesus believe in "concurrence of events"?

"But concurrence of events is what the word signifies, rather than chance."-Vine's

Did Jesus believe in chance or concurrence of events?