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    Quote Originally Posted by laterunner View Post
    While Christians claim the God created man atheists claim man created God.

    How would you refute this idea??
    I would not waste my time trying to convince an atheist. They start from the premise that God does not exist. If that is their opinion OK. I They can not prove it. I cannot disprove it except to related personal experience of God.
    If we disagree , at least one of us is wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodbought View Post
    Religion is IRRELEVANT.
    The Oxford English Dictionary
    religion
    noun
    1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. a particular system of faith and worship.
    2 a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.
    Are you saying we shouldn't believe in and worship God?

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    i have lots to make athiests think.they always say to me there is no proof of God so they don,t know.
    this always stumps them there is no proof of love so they are loveless.they usually say love is a chemical reaction in the brain,and my response to this is what do you say to the wife and kids,i chemical reaction in my brain you.
    athiests are hypocrits in a imaginary group,is God no athiests,isn,t God still no athiests.so there group is imaginary.
    by the way athiest is an anagram of eat ****,i tell them God has a sense of humour.they don,t like that,lmao.
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    Yes.. I've encountered hundreds who not only seem to not care, but also speak outright boldly against the Truth of our Lord Jesus Christ/His Word. I'm still learning and praying in how to respond, but it mainly on a case by case basis. Depends on the person, if they want to really hear the Gospel, great, Praise the Lord. Can always pray that seeds are planted and He gives the increase.

    More and more though - I see they are just speaking out against His Word.

    Its crazy...I don't remember one "atheist" when I was growing up..or any claiming to be. Somehow, even if we weren't born again yet, everyone seemed to at least know there is Deity, a God, and had respect somehow.

    Over the last year or so, I've seen what I believe is a total rise in "self proclaimed" atheists. And/or they are coming out of the closet. It crazy.


    For anyone who is interested in seeing a few self proclaimed "hard core atheists",
    here are three channels on YouTube. Thunderf00t is a scientist, dprjones is a lawyer, and "FactvsReligion" gal..well I don't know what she is or does. Keep in mind, to the "world" these people are what the "world" considers intelligent and they are claiming to use "Logic" and "Reason". And they claim that us "Creationists" are delusional.


    Here's their channels (they are all "buddies" too)

    1) Thunderf00t (Scientist/Atheist)
    YouTube - Thunderf00t's Channel

    Thunderf00t has made a series of videos called "Why Do People Laugh At Creationists"

    The sad thing is that his channel has 88,939 suscribers. EIGHTY EIGHTY THOUSAND, NINE HUNDRED THIRTY NINE So sad, so very sad.
    And his channel has over 4 million views.


    Thunderf00t made this video in particular: Caution: His mocking and twisting of the bible may make you sick and/or very angry/sad, etc.

    YouTube - The Bible for beginners (Part 3)
    (He calls this vid "The Bible for beginners - part 3") He made other ones, I don't even want to watch them all, but just giving you an idea of what we are seeing lately in proclaimed "atheists".

    Thunderf00t also has made a 21 Part Video Series called, "Why Do People Laugh At Creationists." The first of these videos has over 800,000 views on YT.


    2) dprjones (Lawyer/Atheist)
    YouTube - dprjones's Channel


    3) FactVsRelgion (Not sure/Atheist)
    YouTube - FactVsReligion's Channel

    This gal here...her and her friends took a hidden video camera...and actually visited a Roman Catholic Church service and "stole" the wafer. They made a big joke about it and called it "crackergate". While I do not agree with the Eucharist, nor am I Roman Catholic.. just pointing out at the lengths some are going to.

    YouTube - Hostage Situation




    Right now, they all seem to be commenting on the 9/11 Truthers. (which perhaps some of us may even agree with them on that point, that the conspiracy theories are junk) But if you look at most of their older videos on each of their sites..you'll see the mocking, the hatred, the boldness at which they speak out against our Most High God and christians.


    If you feel like commenting on any of their videos and witnessing, please be careful though. Perhaps don't show your details on your YouTube page. I've seen these people (and their followers) attempt to take down a couple christian sites, through belitting, mocking, harassing, etc. (Even though they deny it)

    These people I'd say rather seem to hate God. Their agenda seems rather to promote atheism. It's really sad, so sad.

    I know there is hope in the Lord. I know we can pray. But just wanted to share with anyone who hasn't seen the likes of this. This is what we are seeing more and more of.

    I personally can't wait to be with our Lord Jesus Christ. This world is getting so sad. Don't mean to be depressing, but it's just so bad. We just gotta stand firm in His Love and Truth. †
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    Dear Shamu ,the truth is that there is now a majority of theologians and pastors and pastors leaving apostate seminaries and theological colleges who deny the scriptures and deny the Word of God .So the enemy is well entrenched inside the various religions pouring scorn on true scripture and preaching all kinds of error and heresy

    The teaching is based on Plato and enlightenment and has nothing to do with the Word of God and should any protest against this they are labelled KJV onlyists or fundamentalists as if they are the ones who are twisting the scriptures ,the fact is that these theologian who teach these heresies have infiltrated so deeply ,then maybe they can never be removed ,but the truth of Gods Word will always find a way
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddybear View Post
    Jesus said that people will know we are his disciples if we love one another. Actions speak louder than words.
    Amen to that Eddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveg View Post
    Are you saying we shouldn't believe in and worship God?
    In Christian circles, there is a lot of meaningless speech.

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    I missed the video, time has run out, but I am sure I would have found it interesting rather than funny.... Horizon usually produce good programms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laterunner View Post
    While Christians claim the God created man atheists claim man created God.

    How would you refute this idea??
    I would not refute it. I would be unlikely to get into such a conversation. My faith is my business, another person's lack of faith is theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antonia View Post
    I would not refute it. I would be unlikely to get into such a conversation. My faith is my business, another person's lack of faith is theirs.
    Well, afterall, Jesus did say " wipe the dust from you're feet "
    Never be overwhelmed by decisions, just consider the right ones and your options will be far fewer.

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