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    With God a thousand years and a day are the same, for He is outside of the time. Only I wondered when the time factor actually is, pertaining to the sequence of events with prophecy for revival of the Bride of Christ and multitudes being saved? ( The scriptures are at the end of this post).

    There is prophecy in the bible of this happening but I don't actually know when. Will it be before, during or after the second coming of Christ? I know that we don't know when prophecy will occur. Just there may be scriptures that show the order of events.


    The reason I ask is,because the enemy's counterfeit work can be confused with fulfilling the biblical prophecies.

    Only will the counterfeit and the truth be occuring at different times. Alternately, they could be alongside each other, but going a different direction. One solely to Christ, and the other to the snares of deception with the antichrist?

    After all, there is a spiritual battle between good and evil and the devil will always counterfeit the Spirit of Christ. They can occur in the same place, and fits the wheat and the weeds growing together.

    Another thing is, that no fellowship is yet perfect and so even in something sound there is going to be some degree of err.

    This leads me to ask about the ark, that has been mentioned. Is this the holy of holies where the bride of Christ is perfected and the glory of God has entered her, for the lost to see? Again, when will this be, before, during or after the coming of Christ. As I think this is connected to salvation of multitudes.

    I have added some scriptures here from former posts and from a different forum ,to consider.


    Just make us realise how kind and gracious God is, when we look at the scriptures of Abraham and Sarah, as well as the connected scriptures.

    Abraham and Sarah were blessed, and this will be greatly multiplied. Hebrews 11:12-16 They are commended as great people of God, Hebrews 11:8-11. This is despite their faults, and the tremendous repercussions of how they stumbled. That are even affecting us today.

    Abraham and Sarah have often been set as an example. This is eventhough they stumbled, in waiting to bear Abraham a child. Sarah influenced Abraham to have a child, with Hagar.

    Sarah caused this to happen, she was sorry, and yet she let others suffer as a result. Genesis 16:1-6

    Sarah was extremely unkind to Hagar as well, and also to Ishmael, Genesis 21:9-10

    Yet Abraham and Sarah are the giants of faith. This is still, even though we have the formation of Islam. That stem from the ancient days and to today.


    Despite the mistakes, God has very kindly called Ishmael a nation, Genesis 16:7-16 Genesis 21:12-21

    As Ishamael is still the son of Abraham.

    God made a covenant through Abraham, Issac and Jacob.


    Paul quoted from Sarah and described Sarah as the free woman, and Hagar as the slave, Galatians 4:21-31

    I wonder, if Paul used this as an example to the jewish people to show them the freedom from the law that is on offer. As the arabian people were still bound by the law in following their religion. Like many jewish people were still following the old covenant.


    As we know, the Islam religion has serious error. We know that the muslims and jewish people have always been enemies. As during this time and era, there is a terrible rift and division among the very people whom God has plans for, in special future unity.


    As it seems that one day that will end, as prophecy shows that many muslims will turn away from their error and turn to Christ. I mean through being Christ centred (777), and not counterfeit new age (666). This is seen in Isaiah 19:19-24 Psalm 87:4 As there are promises for the jewish people, after the full measure of gentiles are saved, Romans 11:25-32 Genesis 45

    Here are some more scriptures regarding salvation to multitudes:

    Micah 7:16-20,
    Micah 4 :1-13,
    Zephaniah 3:9-13,
    Psalm 102:15-17
    Zechariah 8:22-23,
    Hosea 2:23,
    Isaiah 56,
    Isaiah 52:10
    Jude 1:14-15




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    Hello Searchlight

    This leads me to ask about the ark, that has been mentioned. Is this the holy of holies where the bride of Christ is perfected and the glory of God has entered her, for the lost to see? Again, when will this be, before, during or after the coming of Christ. As I think this is connected to salvation of multitudes.
    I hope I don't say this wrong

    The ark of the covenant was in the holy of holies it was the place where God resided and only the high priest was aloud to enter once a year, on Yom Kippur to offer the blood of sacrifice

    When Christ died and the temple curtain was rent in two, it ended the old covenant and brought in the new covenant, God no longer dwells in a house built by man, but dwells in each of us. We have now become the temple of God

    1 cor 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?


    If you want to compare the Ark of the Covenant to someone or some thing, then, I think something to consider is this. In the Ark of the Covenant was the 10 commandment written on the stone tablets. In us is written Gods law written on our heart

    2Cr 3:3 [Forasmuch as ye are] manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

    Hbr 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:


    Also in the Ark of the covenant was Aron's rod which blossomed and
    The rod that blossomed would belong to God’s chosen priesthood,

    We also have been made priests

    Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him [be] glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

    Also the rod that blossomed could symbolizes how we were dead and are now alive
    Also in the Ark of the covenant was the bowl of manna, this could represent Christ in us, the bread of life or the word of God living in us.

    I am not sure, but I am sure that we are the temple of God, he lives within us, and what ever the Ark represents today, whether it is Jesus or his words, it is with in us, if we are the temple of God

    The Church needs to remember who we are, We are sons of God.

    where the bride of Christ is perfected and the glory of God has entered her, for the lost to see?
    We are the perfected bride of Christ , he has already done this. We need to remember who we are. We need to witness to the lost. I agree to what you said, that. this is connected to the salvation of the great multitude. If 12 men can touch the world don't you think it is possible that, we as believers can reach a multitude?

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    Yes I do think so Jay dub. Thanks also for your imput. Just wondered when this revival will take place as the bride of Christ reflecting the light of Christ, shining in the darkness for the lost to see.

    In relation to what was said and not confusing this with the enemy's counterfeit work and being able to distinguish.


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    I think that revival means for the bride of Christ to be revived and not luke warm. As I learnt here from onetiggeroo.

    As God will spit the church out of His mouth for luke warmness. Revelation 3:15-20

    That might have happened or is happening. That might explain why we have a famine of God's word now. It seems we are among the great falling away now.

    Only it could last a very long time and I think it began when Jesus ascended into heaven. I just want to know if the bride will be sanctified eventually in this era and cry out to Him with Him withdrawing away and therefore be revived, and so in all dramatic events the lost will see a difference in Christ's people.

    Also turn to Christ and not the world. Alternatively, will God's people fall away as well. Or will it be some will and some will be sancitified.

    Thats what I'm asking and as to how does this fit the prophecy in scriptures.

    I backed up with scripture how it was prophesied that muslims will turn to Christ. This has also been happening but not to a great extent.
    I don't mean by compromise either or anything counterfeit. Only I know this happens as well.

    I am most certainly not saying revival connected to Islam at all, or anything to do with Islamic or manmade terms. As compromising the gospel is another deceptive gospel, that opposes Christ.


    One reason why I post this, is because there is much talk of revival and it is backed up by scripture. As in the bride of Christ being revived and consequently multitudes being saved. I mentioned the scriptures of multitudes coming to be saved. Christ shows His power and glory and isn't any half measures.

    I am enquiring when ??

    This is I'm seeking the truth as to when this will happen, and so we can distinguish whether this is truth or error in this era and before Christ. Thats why I asked about the time factor pertaining to before, during or after Christ. As scripture shows us that revival and salvation will occur on a grand scale.


    I'm pinpointing the blood of Christ, which I'm sure many are genuine for and genuinely want to see the lost saved.


    Anyway, I think that I could have used the word " sanctified" instead of perfect, as pertains to 2 Thessalonians 2:13 by the Holy Spirit and also the Word of God, John 17:16 sanctifies. As perfect must apply to the day of Jesus Christ. As He that begun the good work in you will complete it on the day of Christ. Philippians 1:6

    Its is through the grace of God that we are sanctified and through Christ and not through mans own terms. It surely is that we only have to humble ourselves before Christ and confess our failings and transgressions, and He works through us by His grace. For He that is in us is greater than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4

    He opposes the proud and gives grace liberally to the humble. James 4:6
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    I was told recently that for the first time in history there are now more people being born-again than there are being born. Is this the beginning of revival?

    I have not been able to substantiate this as yet.
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    I've heard that there are many communities in India, China and generally around Asia and other continents, that are coming into a relationship with Christ.

    There is of course a lot of persecution in many places, and including India. Lots of things don't get to be widespread news and theres no way of using official statistics to measure spiritual activity. Statistics tend to be inaccurate anyway when they are secular, as well.

    I have not really looked into the revivals deeply that are mentioned to be in Asia.

    Also, some of which we have heard about in western society do not seem to be genuine revivals. Like last year being centred around Todd Bentley, and not Christ.

    There again, there is another way of looking at it is. That the wheat and the weeds grow together, and in a field one will be taken while the other remains, with the coming of Christ. This suggests that one can genuinely be converted by Christ, while the friend next to him maybe experiencing the counterfeit conversion that opposes Christ. Happening in the same crowd, group and even same biological family. Making me wonder if true revivals are occuring in the same place as counterfeit revivals.

    Someone clarified my thoughts on this whole subject. That in the last days there will be a mirror image. One will be truth and the other error.

    For the enemy wants to hide the activity of God and steer people away from this, and so counterfeits. Therefore the truth and error get tangled and become a knot. This needs combing out with a fine tooth comb, and can be painful but done as gently as possible.

    This surely requires really giving ourselves to God, and really seeking Him through the cross, surrendering our opinions, traditions etc in exchange for the truth. Being still to Him and asking for His grace to comb out these knots by His Word and Spirit.

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