What is a wholesome sound revival?

[onetiggerroo]

When TRUE REVIVAL comes, it comes to the CHURCH (the Boby of CHRIST) first, and then reaches out to the lost and dying world. It is only when we get ourselves aligned with the WORD and what the LORD wants us to do and be, that others see CHRIST in us, and they will want what we have! What we have is JESUS, AMEN. This is when TRUE REVIVAL happens.

[Karen]

Well, I have no idea what a genuine move of God or a 'revival' would do, or would not do, regarding pubs, never having actively witnessed one. But back then, no-one had a desire to go to the pub and so they closed (in the Welsh Revival).

Both, the Welsh and the Isle of Lewis - 'Revival' or 'Awakening' - occured after much PRAYER by the Body of Christ - who gathered together to PRAY - night and day.

Apparently, all the people who came to Christ, having repented of sin, then had a hunger and thirst for God, all they wanted to do was to hear God's message, the gospel, and partake in Bible study, and meet together and pray, and have fellowship. And, then they went out and shared the gospel with others.

And those who already had known God went from 'lukewarm' to being on 'fire' for God.

[Anita]

I know that there are many who claim to be having revivals but it's merely giving people that happy feeling, let then feel comfortable. These events are so well publisised
but where are these folks after the events. Are they evangelising at home or abroad. I don't think they are they are either still in a church having a social life or out in the world .... what's the difference?

Yes, excellent points from By His Grace and I've seen this and whats the difference to partying? Though I think people then have the longing for the excitement for the wrong reasons, and open themselves up then eventually to powers of darkness. Do they really have a desire for God's Kingdom and for people to be saved, or is it they want excitement and thrill that unfortunately powers of darkness can dangerously bring.

This is when I see how important this is from Onetiggerroo:

Psalms 40:1 I waited patiently for the LORD; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry. 2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. 3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.


Then surely the true revival and salvation to many, comes about through God working in His people, who really truely have His heart.They are tested to wait for Him and entrust Him. They are pruned to have Christlike qualities and to have patience and to be disciplined for long suffering etc. As surely its about waiting for God and He is a lamp to us.

Thank you all of you, for such valuable imput.

[Anita]

When TRUE REVIVAL comes, it comes to the CHURCH (the Boby of CHRIST) first, and then reaches out to the lost and dying world. It is only when we get ourselves aligned with the WORD and what the LORD wants us to do and be, that others see CHRIST in us, and they will want what we have! What we have is JESUS, AMEN. This is when TRUE REVIVAL happens.

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Psalms 40:1 I waited patiently for the LORD; and he inclined unto me, and heard my cry. 2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. 3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.




What a wonderful post. Thank you so much.

[Shorty]

Revival, that is a word that is used like "can you pass the butter."

I question revivals today, why? Because the Word tells us "Like in the days' of Noah...."

Can anyone name a revival that happened before the flood? To my knowledge there wasn't one...Everyone was going about their daily business, just like we see today...

I do believe that each individual person will be poured out upon not a huge group of people at one time...For whom would that benefit if it were a huge group? Just that group...

I am one who does not believe that Todd's thing is of the Lord. The Lord has never instructed anyone to kick people in the face or bash legs on a stage. Those things are not of the Lord...It is certainly not a revival. IMO...

[ByHisGrace]

and the pubs closed due to lack of customers!

In a way I can understand that people lost interest through their new relationship and greater love in Christ. If the pub was associated with the world for them.

Though not everyone goes to the pub to be worldly, and to get drunk. This may have been the place Jesus went to, as He turned water into wine and used alcohol as an illustration of His teachings. Pubs could even be places where the church could meet and genuinely worship our true and living God. As I said they are not necessarily worldly, or the place where people get drunk. They could be a good place to evangelise in as well. I know people who have said the Holy Spirit speaks through them, in the pub.

Anita this is what happened in Kilsyth in 1839 a mining village near me.
The Revival of 1839

In the first quarter of the nineteenth century Kilsyth had hardened to the Gospel to the point that it was said that, "The Apostle Paul would not be able to get the people of Kilsyth out to a full meeting on three Sabbaths running."

However, this was to change. William Chalmers Burns, a young man twenty four years of age was led to preach on the subject of Revival. He read from Acts 2 and then preached from Psalm 110:3, "Thy people shall be willing in the day of Thy power." As he ministered, people broke forth in uncontrollable wailing and tears and groans intermingled with shouts of joy and praise. Some screamed and others fell to the ground as if dead. The meeting eventually concluded at 3 p.m. having lasted five hours.

The Revival had begun and, when he preached a few days later, he found himself preaching to a thousand people on a Saturday afternoon. The next day he preached for two hours to a crowd of 10,000 people. Another large service was planned that evening and yet another at 10 p.m. This meeting lasted till 3 a.m. Some who had been counselled did not leave until 6 a.m.

One man commenting on the impact of this move of God recorded, "The web became nothing to the weaver, nor the forge to the blacksmith, nor his bench to the carpenter, nor his furrow to the ploughman. They forsook all to crowd the churches and the prayer meetings.". It was common place for hundreds to meet for early morning prayer in the market square before going to work.

Once again religious people opposed the move of God and, once again, the fruits bore eloquent and indisputable testimony to its genuineness.

Burns went as a missionary to China in 1846 and laboured there for over twenty years. He was a source of encouragement to the young Hudson Taylor who was later to found the China Inland Mission. A missionary on furlough was asked if he had ever known William Burns, "Know him, sir, " he replied, "Every man in China knows him! He is the holiest man alive."

Once again God had chosen to pour out His Spirit on the small town of Kilsyth but there were still more remarkable visitations yet to come.

[Onesiphorus]

The only spirit that used to speak to me in a pub was a double scotch and ice , but seriously though I in the past have been involved in tent missions etc and now reading the scriptures I cannot find anything in the word about "revevals " in the sense we talk about today , we preach the foolishness of the gospel which to the Jew is a stumbling block and to the greek foolishness , in another place we are told that the gospel of grace is an offence and in another place that the cross is foolishness to those who are unsaved .... so I now see it not as how many names we can write down but actually just preach the gospel as and when God requires us to . That is my humble opinion for what it is worth . we are a witness to His work daily or we should be if we just understand who we are in Christ and His plan and work is being done through all the saints just by "being".

I also am from a country that experienced a great revival in 1904 (Wales ) but within 10 years it had all but disappeared so make of that what you will

[ByHisGrace]

The only spirit that used to speak to me in a pub was a double scotch and ice , but seriously though I in the past have been involved in tent missions etc and now reading the scriptures I cannot find anything in the word about "revevals " in the sense we talk about today , we preach the foolishness of the gospel which to the Jew is a stumbling block and to the greek foolishness , in another place we are told that the gospel of grace is an offence and in another place that the cross is foolishness to those who are unsaved .... so I now see it not as how many names we can write down but actually just preach the gospel as and when God requires us to . That is my humble opinion for what it is worth . we are a witness to His work daily or we should be if we just understand who we are in Christ and His plan and work is being done through all the saints just by "being".

I also am from a country that experienced a great revival in 1904 (Wales ) but within 10 years it had all but disappeared so make of that what you will

I think folks take the Acts 11 as a revival although it was not the bring back to life but giving them the true life in Christ Jesus.
Many would say the Billy Graham had great revivals, I was saved in 1955 at his Glasgow meeting as were many of my friends. Although I was a child then, coming from a Christian family I knew the Truth so was not in any doubt to what was happening. I know that many go out at these meetings in and emotional grip not lead there my God. So in time you see the true fruit.

[Anita]

I have found this all very informative and very helpful. Do you mind if I copy your posts and I will keep your names on them as well. Just I think they would encourage others?

[Onesiphorus]

If you mean my ramblings of course