Calvinism : He gave himself for the non-elect

[DeaconDan]

I can have fun with the word "might" because it suggests he died for those he might save so if He gives himself in the place of those who aren't saved then He died for the non-elect.

"Might" does not belong in that verse.

[Chuckt]

"Might" does not belong in that verse.

Galatians 1:4 who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,


New International Version (©1984)
who gave himself for our sins to rescue us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,

New Living Translation (©2007)
Jesus gave his life for our sins, just as God our Father planned, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.

English Standard Version (©2001)
who gave himself for our sins to deliver us from the present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
who gave Himself for our sins so that He might rescue us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father,

International Standard Version (©2008)
He gave himself for our sins in order to rescue us from this present evil age according to the will of our God and Father.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
In order to free us from this present evil world, Christ took the punishment for our sins, because that was what our God and Father wanted.

King James Bible
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

American King James Version
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

American Standard Version
who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us out of this present evil world, according to the will of our God and Father:

Bible in Basic English
Who gave himself for our sins, so that he might make us free from this present evil world, after the purpose of our God and Father:

Douay-Rheims Bible
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present wicked world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Darby Bible Translation
who gave himself for our sins, so that he should deliver us out of the present evil world, according to the will of our God and Father;

English Revised Version
who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us out of this present evil world, according to the will of our God and Father:

Webster's Bible Translation
Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

Weymouth New Testament
who gave Himself to suffer for our sins in order to rescue us from the present wicked age in accordance with the will of our God and Father.

World English Bible
who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us out of this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father--

Young's Literal Translation
who did give himself for our sins, that he might deliver us out of the present evil age, according to the will of God even our Father,


Geneva Study Bible
{2} Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil {d} world, according to the will of God and our Father:

[canny]

1. Expressing a possibility

May and might both express the idea of possibility:

We may call a meeting next week; We might call a meeting next week.

The two forms are basically interchangeable, although the less likely the possibility, the more appropriate it is to use might:

We might call a meeting next week, although the chairman won't be available.

Saying we might go to the trade fair means that the likelihood of going is somewhat less than if you say we may go to the trade fair – although the difference is very subtle.

Similarly, might can be used to express doubt when a possibility is extremely remote:

I think whoever translated it should have used May.

[whirlwind]

John 17:19-21 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent Me.


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[Jay Dub]

John 10

14"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

So He is the good shepherd of those that know His voice...but also for sheep not of particular pen....so question, who exactly are the sheep of the first pen talked about ...and who are the sheep not of that pen that will also recognise His voice...just for clarity?

I see the first pen as Jews who believed and followed God and the other pen are the gentiles that will be grafted in because of their belief in Jesus. There will be one flock and one shepherd. No longer are there Jews and gentiles, there are only believers, non believers are not part of his flock whether they are Jews or gentiles