Jesus’ resurrection?

[Astute]

If Jesus had not died on the cross and resurrected for the dead would he still be the Messiah?

[Lily]

If Jesus had not died on the cross and resurrected for the dead would he still be the Messiah?

Hello Astute, welcome

My simple answer would have to be, " no resurrection = No Christianity ".

1 Corinthians 15:14

Not sure about how deep you want to go though.

[streetsinger]

Messiah means Saviour 'astute', so the question, surely has to be, what are we saved from, why do we need saving, and how does the Saviour save us? When Adam sinned he left us sin as an inheritance that we are all born into. What is this sin, it's disobedience and rebellion, it's not something that's within our control, it's in our nature and out of our control. As the apostle Paul laments, the things he wants to do he can't, the things he doesn't want to do he does. He cries who will rescue me from this body of death? So the answer to the first part, is we are being saved from our bodies of death. A Gypsy evangelist once said, "People tell me that sin is horrible, it ain't, it's nice, otherwise people wouldn't do it." There is pleasure in sin, to start with, this is how Satan entraps us, but it's not long before the pleasure diminishes and we find ourselves in bondage to the sin that now demands feeding, and if we don't obey we are tormented until we do. This is why we need saving. The Saviour, Jesus, to save us, first had to gain authority over the prince of the world "Satan", so that he could take what belonged to him and restore it to its original creator, thus righting the wrong of Eden. This is why scripture refers to Jesus as the second Adam. The first one blew it, the second one fixed it. Satan has authority over man because it was given him by the first man Adam. As Jesus was not of the seed of Adam but the seed of God, Satan had no authority over him so he constantly tempted Jesus to try to make him obedient but to no avail, till in the end he resorted to the cross in a last ditch effort to get Jesus to deny God. Jesus endured the cross to gain the authority to redeem humanity from the grasp of Satan, he died that we might be freed from the sentence of death that was promised to Adam and his seed if he ate the forbidden fruit. That is how the Saviour saves us. The resurrection is the physical evidence of rebirth and eternal life, and the releasing of the Holy Spirit to come and bring eternal life to all who believe. So the answer to your question 'astute' is no.

[Tabansi]

No, without the resurrection our faith is in Vain.

Jesus rose from the dead first then the same Spirit that lived in Him will raise us in the last days (that is if we died before His 2nd coming)

[Astute]

Streetsinger wrote: “So the answer to your question 'astute' is no.”

Lily wrote: " no resurrection = No Christianity ".

Tabansi wrote: “No, without the resurrection our faith is in Vain.”

Below is part of what someone I know sent me. I researched the scientific studies and his statement is correct. How would you respond?

Thank you for your help.


John 19:33-35

"33 But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs, 34 but one soldier thrust his lance into his side, and immediately blood and water flowed out. 35 An eyewitness has testified, and his testimony is true; he knows that he is speaking the truth,"

Indisputable scientific studies prove that if Jesus was physically dead and his CORPSE was poked or even pierced, blood and sweat would not have come out, much less immediately come out.

[Galaen]

If He hadn't been dead then He couldn't have risen again and fulfilled the scriptures. He died and was raised from the dead that we might be given eternal life. If He had remained in the grave it wouldn't have given us much hope would it?

[smellycat]

if jesus wasn,t raised from the dead,how could we follow him.?

but he was and went back to God,and said he will draw all men to him.

[Lily]

Indisputable scientific studies prove that if Jesus was physically dead and his CORPSE was poked or even pierced, blood and sweat would not have come out, much less immediately come out.

Not medically true. I speak from working in a cardiac theatre for over 10yrs and have stood longside the likes of the world famous heart surgeon Magdi Yacoub and many other fine, Gods gifted heart surgeons and this statement is simple not true.

The water described in that passage would be fluid from the chest cavity known as the pericardium and dead or alive, you pierce that pericardium a huge gush of pericardial fluid will flow.

Pathologists don't wear wellington boots for nothing and I have witnessed pericardial fluid gushing forth even at autopsy.

This statement is not true. I speak so because I have witnessed otherwise.

[Galaen]

Sorry but I am a bit confuse here- are we now saying that Jesus did not die on the cross?

[Lily]

I'm not Galaen, I have no doubt he was dead.