This was the other point of confusion for me last night...this was actually the initial topic which somehow managed to move onto the disciples one, which i have posted a topic on...
I was being told that Inherited diseases/illnesses in fact do not exist to the point of we 'choose' wether they develop within ourselves, by choosing life over death, speaking life instead of death...
This particular topic disturbed me somewhat as well as confused me..., i've never heard such a cut off stance on it before.
I have several family members who have died from an inherited disease, and live next door to my mother in law because she has one and needs help with these latter stages....she is a believer, and i could not believe what i was seeing up on screen....it was being said that because of her ignorance basically to the Word, that it has invited the illness in...irrelevant to the fact that her father, brother, nephew have already died from it, her other brother is in latter stages, she has it and her other niece now is developing it...it is an obvious genetic illness.
The suggestion was even made that genetic diseases do not even exist that as you put it, its mind over matter! Shocked and confused i was
And how far does this line of thinking go, any illnesses not just inherited ones are brought on by our own lack of faith and understanding?
I was being quoted things like....my people will perish for their lack of understanding, people not knowing to speak words of life into their lives, was what was 'causing' the illnesses to develop....any thoughts?
Phil4
8Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. 9Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me—put it into practice. And the God of peace will be with you.
Twaddle
we do inherit certain generic oddities.... WE DO
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr being told you dont have enough faith to overcome makes me so cross......................
those that assume they do have enough faith, do they accept that sometimes its NO, have they yet sat and watched one of their loved ones die because they believed if they pray they will live !!!!... grrrrrrrrrr
God sometimes says no,,, we just have to accept life and death and illness and all things as they are... Someone will get healed,, but why you or me ? God;s choice.
Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. ....................
as a sort of side comment,,, what if God knows that tomorrow you are going to hurt someone ?
Today you are contrite and fervent and pray with all you got, because today matters to you.
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Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. ....................
Oh yes, the siezures I've had have definately been mind over matter, The scar tissue on my temporal lobe is defo mind over matter.The suggestion was even made that genetic diseases do not even exist that as you put it, its mind over matter! Shocked and confused i was
What a steaming load of twaddle.
Never be overwhelmed by decisions, just consider the right ones and your options will be far fewer.
Inquisitive, can I suggest you stay away from these people and all the garbage they are spouting.
Reminds me of the time I was told in that very chat room that I can't be a " proper " Christian because I had epilepsy![]()
Never be overwhelmed by decisions, just consider the right ones and your options will be far fewer.
What a load of rubbish. The fact that you became so confused is a big give away Inquisitive. I don't know why these people come out with such tripe but it would be interesting to see what their response was if they ever became struck down with illness. The God I know is a God of Love and this is certainly not the way He operates. The advice to stay away from these people sounds pretty good to me. I don't every remember reading in Scripture that genetic illness is a pay back for not having enough faith. What do we do with our children when they need and want to learn? - How much more will our Father in heaven do for us
God's promises never fail
THese people will have to answer oneday for all this rubbish.I was being quoted things like....my people will perish for their lack of understanding, people not knowing to speak words of life into their lives, was what was 'causing' the illnesses to develop....any thoughts?
Never be overwhelmed by decisions, just consider the right ones and your options will be far fewer.
erm, now look Lil, stop doing a fandango, coz you dun have faith if ya do ....
Oi vey,, and lots think I am lacking ...![]()
Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me. ....................
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